Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray

Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray

Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosted by FOX10’s Chelsey Sayasane and Dani Dials, is where real conversations meet real stories of resilience, innovation, and growth. Each week, we uncover the journeys of entrepreneurs and business leaders navigating the gray areas of success. From local start-ups to larger powerhouses, our conversations aim to uncover the unfiltered realities behind building and leading a business. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned leader, you’ll find inspiration, challenge, and connection in every episode.

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The Bake Blue Story, with Debra & Reed Pennington

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, we sit down with Debra and Reed Pennington, the founders of Bake Blue Bakery, a business built on both purpose and passion. Located in Spanish Fort, Bake Blue was created to provide meaningful employment opportunities for adults with disabilities, addressing a gap that many families experience but few businesses are designed to meet. What started as a personal journey has grown into a mission-driven brand that blends entrepreneurship with impact.


In honor of Autism Awareness Month, we explore the inspiration behind Bake Blue, the story behind its name, and the realities of building a business that carries both financial and social responsibility. From launching under a cottage license to dreaming of a future storefront, Debra and Reed share the lessons, challenges, and heart behind their work. This conversation is a reminder that some of the most powerful businesses don’t just serve customers… they serve a greater purpose.

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Apr 1, 2026 11:20 AM
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From Farm to Table to Michelin Recognition with Chris Rainosek

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Chef and owner Chris Rainosek of The Noble South in downtown Mobile.

Chris shares the journey behind building a farm-to-table restaurant rooted in seasonal ingredients and local partnerships, and what it has taken to grow and sustain that vision over time. The Noble South was recently recognized in the inaugural MICHELIN Guide to the American South with a Bib Gourmand, becoming the only restaurant in Mobile to receive that distinction.

The conversation dives into the realities of running a restaurant. Chris also reflects on the discipline, decisions, and mindset required to keep moving forward in an industry that never stands still.

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Mar 25, 2026 12:0 AM
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Building Systems That Scale with Darryl McKinney

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with entrepreneur Darryl McKinney to talk about the journey behind Heavenly Pies Pizzeria and the lessons he learned along the way. Darryl shares how he started with a cleaning business before moving into the restaurant industry and what it took to grow and sustain a business over time. The conversation explores the importance of systems, leadership, and learning how to work on a business instead of constantly working in it. It is an honest look at the discipline, strategy, and persistence that go into creating something that lasts.

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Mar 18, 2026 12:0 AM
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The Business of Influencing with Taren Denise

What does it really take to build a career as a content creator?

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Taren Denise to talk about the business side of influencing. Taren shares how she went from starting as an intern at FOX10 to leaving her full time job to pursue content creation as a full time career.

The conversation explores the rise of micro influencing and why creators do not need millions of followers to build meaningful partnerships with brands. Taren explains how she approaches collaborations, tracks the impact of the content she creates, and negotiates her rates through a structured rate card. She also opens up about the strategy and work that happens behind the scenes that most people never see.

This episode offers an honest look at the creator economy and how digital platforms are opening new doors for entrepreneurs who are willing to treat their creativity like a business.

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Mar 11, 2026 12:0 AM
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Building Influence from within with Bri Burrell

Most people know Bri Burrell as Miss Alabama 2023, the third Black woman to earn that title in the competition’s 102-year history. But in this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, we go deeper than the crown.

Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Bri for an honest conversation about leadership, representation, and what it means to think like an intrapreneur while creating opportunity and influence from within existing organizations. From winning Miss Saraland in high school to stepping onto larger stages and spaces where she was often the only Black woman in the room, Bri reflects on navigating spaces that didn’t always look like her and choosing to lead with purpose anyway.

Now serving as Executive Director of the Miss University of South Alabama Scholarship Program and investing in student leadership, Bri shares how she’s stewarded her platform beyond the spotlight. This episode explores personal branding and the power of building impact from within corporate settings. 

Whether you’re an entrepreneur or an intrapreneur, this conversation will inspire you to lead boldly and intentionally.

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Feb 25, 2026 12:0 AM
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From HR to HR Tech: Dr. Gia Wiggins’ Auditocity Journey

What happens when an HR professional sees a gap in her industry and decides to build the solution herself? In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Dr. Gia Wiggins, founder of Auditocity and CEO of Morale Resource, to talk about her journey from HR practitioner to tech founder.

Gia shares how she went from writing down what once felt like an impossible dream to developing HR technology that’s gaining national attention, from pitching at Google headquarters during New York Tech Week to seeing her company featured in Times Square. She reflects on the leadership lessons she’s learned, the courage it takes to step into new spaces, and what it really looks like to build something innovative from the Gulf Coast. This conversation is inspiring, grounded, and full of insight for anyone bold enough to pursue a big idea.

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Feb 18, 2026 12:0 AM
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Inside Franchising with Scooter’s Coffee

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosts Chelsey Sayasane and Dani Dials sit down with Hayden and Lanier Lindsey, the husband-and-wife team behind several local Gulf Coast Scooter’s Coffee locations to talk about franchising, entrepreneurship, and what people often misunderstand about franchise ownership. Hayden and Lanier share the story of how their journey began when Lanier’s father spotted an opportunity out of state and encouraged them to bring Scooter’s Coffee to the Gulf Coast. With prior exposure to franchising through family experience, they had a head start but quickly learned that every location brings its own challenges and lessons.

They break down what it’s like to grow from one location to multiple. They also share how franchises are often locally owned small businesses (not just “corporate”), and how showing up for the community plays a major role in long-term success.

Whether you’re curious about franchising, considering entrepreneurship, or just love learning how local businesses grow, this episode offers real-world insight with plenty of honesty along the way.

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Feb 11, 2026 12:0 AM
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Business on the Parade Route: Inside Olensky Brothers

What does it really look like to leave corporate life and step into a family-owned business? In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosts Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Faye Olensky of Olensky Brothers, a multi-generation, family-owned business rooted in Mobile and right on the heart of the Mardi Gras parade route. Faye shares what it was like to spend years building a corporate career before making the leap to help lead her family’s legacy business full-time. She’s joined by her daughter Courtney, who offers perspective on what it means to choose a path in a family business, especially when the next generation may have different dreams and aspirations. Together, they talk about legacy, leadership, and the decisions that come with continuing a family-built brand.

From the realities of entrepreneurship inside an established business to the behind-the-scenes intensity of Mardi Gras season, this conversation offers insight for anyone navigating big career transitions, family dynamics in business, or the question of when it’s time to take the leap.

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Feb 4, 2026 12:0 AM
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The Senior Bowl Effect: Opportunity On and Off the Field

What does it really take to pull off one of the biggest weeks of the year in Mobile, and why does it matter beyond the game? In this special episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosts Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Drew Fabianich, Executive Director of the Senior Bowl, and Molly Middleton, Director of Public Relations & Community Outreach, to kick off Senior Bowl week with a behind-the-scenes look at what goes into bringing this nationally recognized event to Mobile.

From logistics and long-term planning to partnerships, community impact, and the opportunities created for players, brands, and the region, this conversation explores how the Senior Bowl has grown into more than just a football game. Drew and Molly share insight into the leadership, vision, and collaboration required to steward a legacy event while continuing to evolve in a changing sports and business landscape.

Whether you’re a sports fan, an entrepreneur, or someone curious about how large-scale events create opportunity on and off the field, this episode offers a fresh perspective on the business, strategy, and impact behind Senior Bowl week.

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Jan 26, 2026 12:0 AM
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Behind the Scenes of Business Development in Mobile

What does it really take to bring major businesses to a region, and who’s behind those decisions?  In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosts Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Kayla Byrne, Director of Business Development at the Mobile Chamber, for an eye-opening conversation about what happens behind the scenes of economic growth along the Gulf Coast. Kayla breaks down her role in recruiting and vetting businesses and shares what people often don’t realize about the process of economic development. She explains how deals are built over time, why some projects take years to come together, and what goes into evaluating whether a business is the right fit for the region.

As the leader of the Chamber’s business development division, Kayla oversees everything from lead generation and site development to existing industry expansion and economic research - work that has helped create thousands of jobs and bring billions in investment to the Mobile area.

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Jan 21, 2026 12:0 AM
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What Three Months of Podcasting Taught Us!

Three months into Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, hosts Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane take a moment to pause, reflect, and look back on the journey so far.

In this episode, Dani and Chelsey pull back the curtain on what it’s really been like building the podcast … from how the podcast room came together, to lessons learned along the way, to guest conversations that truly stayed with them long after the microphones were turned off.

This isn’t a recap episode. It’s a behind-the-mic conversation about growth, trial and error, perspective, and what happens when you keep showing up and learning as you go. Dani and Chelsey also share what they’re seeing as the podcast grows, how these conversations are shaping them as hosts, and what listeners can look forward to next.

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Jan 14, 2026 9:21 AM
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Running a Business while Grieving with Rocky Fremin

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani Dials sits down one-on-one with Rocky Fremin, owner of Rock & Roll Offs Rental Dumpsters, for a conversation about resilience, leadership, and navigating grief while continuing to show up for life and business.

Rocky’s story is one of perseverance, from growing up in the foster care system, to serving in the Marines, to building a successful business and serving her community through chambers and boards across the Gulf Coast. In this season, she’s also learning how to carry grief following the loss of her husband, and she shares with honesty and grace how that journey has shaped her perspective.

This episode is thoughtful, encouraging, and deeply human. Dani and Rocky talk about the gift of perspective, the courage to honor love while it’s still present, and what it looks like to keep moving forward when the house feels quiet and the calendar keeps turning. If you’re an entrepreneur, or simply someone stepping into a new year carrying more than you expected, this conversation will make you feel seen.

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Jan 7, 2026 9:19 AM
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Fitness, Identity & Entrepreneurship with Rita Nicole Wright

On this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, we’re sitting down with someone who has personally impacted both hosts, not just professionally, but in real life. Rita‑Nicole Wright is the owner of Beyond Group Fitness, a powerhouse personal trainer, and the woman who trains both Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane. Rita built her gym from the ground up and has carved out a respected name in the fitness industry through discipline, authenticity, and care for her clients. She’s now stepping into an exciting new chapter through a partnership with The Land Sports Complex, expanding her impact on the local community.

In this conversation, Rita shares her personal fitness journey, including seasons where strength and confidence didn’t come easily, and the moment fitness shifted from something she did to something she felt truly called to. We dive into what it takes to become an entrepreneur in the wellness space, the challenges of opening and running a gym. We also explore her decision to partner with The Land, why this move makes sense now, and what clients and the community can expect next.

As we head into a new year, Rita offers grounded wisdom on why resolutions often fall apart, how to build sustainable habits, and why consistency matters more than perfection. This episode is an honest, encouraging look at strength and the gray areas entrepreneurs navigate while building something meaningful.

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Dec 31, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Business of Being Santa

This Christmas Eve, Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray brings you a special episode the whole family can enjoy. Straight from the North Pole, Santa Claus joins the conversation to talk about the business behind the magic… from managing elves and running a worldwide operation in a single night, to what it really takes to keep joy, generosity, and wonder at the center of it all.

Along the way, we have some fun with Santa’s favorite cookie, how the nice list really works (and yes, whether there’s still time to make it), and even a playful call-out that gives one of our hosts a little hope for redemption. But beyond the laughs, this episode also reflects on the heart of Christmas (kindness, giving, and why this season continues to matter year after year). It’s lighthearted, joyful, and perfect to watch or listen to together as you slow down and savor the magic of Christmas Eve.

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Dec 24, 2025 12:0 AM
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Non-Profit Misconceptions, & Leadership  with Marty Carrell

In this episode, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Marty Carrell, Executive Director of Women’s Resource Center, for a powerful conversation about leadership, faith, and navigating complexity in mission-driven work. Marty opens up about what it truly means to lead a nonprofit that is often misunderstood. From managing public perception and cultural tension to staying rooted in compassion, education, and service - Marty shares how WRC meets individuals and families exactly where they are, offering support without judgment and focusing on dignity, love, and informed choices.

The conversation also explores the gray areas leaders face when conviction meets controversy, and how to lead with clarity, courage, and empathy when the work isn’t simple or comfortable. In a deeply personal moment, Marty reflects on continuing to lead with hope while walking through her own cancer journey, offering wisdom on resilience, surrender, and staying anchored to purpose even in the hardest seasons.

This episode is for entrepreneurs, nonprofit leaders, and anyone building something meaningful who wants to understand how strong leadership, grace, and mission can coexist.

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Dec 17, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Art of a Side Hustle with Joe Emer

In this episode, Dani Dials and Chelsey Sayasane sit down with Studio 10’s own Joe Emer to explore “The Art of the Side Hustle.” Most viewers know Joe from FOX10, but behind the scenes, he has built a thriving real estate career over the past decade … all while juggling a demanding full-time job, a busy family life, and the unpredictable world of TV news.

Joe opens up about managing a side hustle, how he learned to set boundaries, and the delicate balance of being transparent with your employer while growing something of your own. He also shares the gray areas every side hustler faces including time management, opportunity limits, and ethical lines.

Whether you're thinking about starting a business on the side or looking for inspiration to manage your own two-lane life, this conversation is honest, practical, and full of the kind of wisdom you only learn by doing.

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Dec 10, 2025 12:0 AM
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Inside the Culinary Grind with Chef Manny

What does reinvention look like behind the scenes of the culinary world? In this episode, Dani and Chelsey sit down with award-winning chef Manny Rodriguez to explore the business decisions, pivots, pressures, and personal growth that shaped his journey from Washington, D.C. fine dining to leading operations along the Gulf Coast.

Chef Manny shares insights on building a brand and rebuilding a career from the ground up. This conversation is a powerful reminder that in business, and in life, reinvention isn’t starting over… it’s starting again with wisdom.

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Dec 3, 2025 12:0 AM
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Primetime Hustle: Lynn Self’s Serial Entrepreneurial Journey

On this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani and Chelsey sit down with a woman whose drive and heart have shaped every room she walks into: Media executive and multi-business entrepreneur Lynn Self. Lynn manages one of FOX10/Gray Media Group’s largest accounts, but her story reaches far beyond corporate walls. She runs a beekeeping company (B Honey), a beach-chair rental business (I Beach)… and has owned a limo service, a landscaping company, flipped homes, and raised five kids along the way. If there’s a hustle, Lynn has lived it. 

Lynn reminds us that success doesn’t have to harden you, ambition can coexist with contentment, and sometimes the best stories happen in the gray areas. Join us for an episode full of laughs, honesty, and “Primetime” energy.

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Nov 26, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Powes: Building Honest Air and Powe & Associates

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Chelsey and Dani sit down with Nick and Shanavia Powe, the powerhouse husband-and-wife team behind Honest Air, Plumbing & Electric and Powe & Associates.

Together, they share what it’s really like to run multiple businesses under one roof, navigate purposeful rebrands, and balance marriage, parenting, and entrepreneurship. Whether you’re a couple in business or an entrepreneur seeking inspiration, this conversation is packed with wisdom, strategy, and heartfelt honesty.

 

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Nov 19, 2025 12:0 AM
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Balancing Family, Leadership, and Legacy: Chat with Mayor Spiro Cheriogotis & Lucy Greer

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani and Chelsey sit down with newly elected Mayor of Mobile, Spiro Cheriogotis, and his wife Lucy Greer of Greer’s Markets, to talk about what it really looks like to lead in both business and public service - all under one roof.

From carrying forward a century-old family business to stepping into the business of running a city, Spiro and Lucy open up about the challenges and the grace behind balancing leadership, legacy, and family life.

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Nov 12, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Entrepreneurial Mindset of Jennifer Jenkins: Chat with the Founder of JJPR

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani and Chelsey sit down with Jennifer Jenkins, Founder and President of JJPR, to explore what it really takes to build a respected brand from the ground up. From her small-town beginnings to leading one of the Gulf Coast’s top public relations firms, Jennifer shares the lessons behind her calm leadership style, the “gray areas” of running a values-driven business, and how she navigates reputation management when the pressure is high.

With warmth and wisdom, Jennifer opens up about saying no, challenges being a woman in business, and staying grounded while wearing many hats.  If you’ve ever wondered how to balance grace and hustle in your entrepreneurial journey, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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Nov 5, 2025 12:0 AM
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Policies, Boundaries, & Etiquette: Protecting Your Business & Your Peace

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Dani and Chelsey sit down with celebrity makeup artist and licensed esthetician Esther Louis of Esther Louis Artistry & Aesthetics. Together, they unpack some of the often-overlooked sides of business success - policies, boundaries, and etiquette.

Esther shares why clear policies aren’t just for protection but for accountability (helping both the business owner and the client thrive). They also tackle the myth that “the customer is always right,” unpack perceptions in industries like beauty and other creative spaces, and laugh through real-life lessons on building a brand that serves everyone from everyday clients to celebrities.

It’s a conversation that pulls back the curtain on what professionalism really looks like behind the chair.

Tune in for laughter, honesty, and practical wisdom you can use to elevate your business and protect your peace.

00:38:49
Oct 29, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Entrepreneurial Mindset of Miss Alabama Teen USA

This week on Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, Chelsey and Dani sit down with Britain Fuller, the newly crowned Miss Alabama Teen USA, just before she takes the national stage at Miss Teen USA.

From balancing school and community leadership to building a platform that blends purpose, confidence, and personal branding, Britain opens up about what it really takes to walk in confidence (on stage and off). She shares how her platform, “What Goes Up, Must Come Down: Balloons Don’t Go to Heaven,” became a creative call to environmental stewardship, and how even young leaders can use their voices to influence change.

Britain’s story reminds us that the heart of entrepreneurship begins with vision, discipline, and a mindset rooted in purpose - and that leadership can start long before your first business card.

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Oct 22, 2025 12:0 AM
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The Business of TV

In this episode of Entrepreneurial Shades of Gray, we sit down with Eric Duncan, General Manager of FOX10, to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to run a TV station. From leading diverse teams and navigating the high-stakes world of ad sales, to balancing the relationship between news and revenue, Eric shares the challenges, risks, and rewards of working in an industry that never sleeps.

He also offers his perspective on the future of TV, the impact of digital platforms and podcasts, and why betting on yourself matters more than ever. From unconventional deals to the type of personality needed to thrive in this fast-paced field, Eric delivers real-world wisdom and behind-the-scenes insights. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or just curious about the business behind your nightly news, this conversation is full of lessons you won’t want to miss.

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Oct 14, 2025 5:0 PM
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