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Reflecting on 9/11, 25 years later

For adults of a certain age, the September 11th terrorist attacks in 2001 were a defining event, just as the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X were for earlier generations. The geopolitical world was forever altered, along with how many Americans thought about the country’s place in the world, and even how they thought about their own identity as citizens. Longtime journalist and University of Oregon professor Peter Laufer documents all of this in his new book, "We Are All Americans." It’s a series of interview excerpts, photos and reflections from the people he talked with on three separate cross-country road trips: one just days after 9/11, another in 2011, and the last in 2021. We talk with Laufer about what he learned, and we take your calls to hear your memories and reflections about this day in history, 25 years later.

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Sep 11, 2026 1:28 PM
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Kids in rural counties more likely to enter foster care, reporting shows

Recent reporting from Investigate West shows that a disproportionate number of children in Oregon’s rural counties are more likely to enter the foster care system compared to those in urban areas. The reporting notes that wider barriers to health and social services in rural counties is often pointed out by providers and experts as a likely cause for this disparity.

 

Danielle Dawson is a collaborative investigative reporter and Report for America corps member at InvestigateWest. She joins us with more details.

 

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Sep 10, 2026 1:13 PM
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Visa struggle plague international students at Oregon universities

As the school year for Oregon universities begins, some international students may not be able to start classes with their peers. As first reported in the Oregon Capital Chronicle, travel bans, changes to the length of stay for student visas and increased immigration enforcement have led to a 20% decline in international students choosing to study in the U.S. Even more so, students from foreign countries who do choose to attend university in the states are seeing delays in the student visa process that could mean they will not be able to start classes in the fall.

 

Eowyn Brown is the associate vice provost for global engagement at Portland State University. Dennis Galvan is the dean and vice provost for global engagement at the University of Oregon. They both join us to share what they are hearing from students about the visa application process and what the overall decline in international students means for Oregon schools.

 

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Sep 10, 2026 1:12 PM
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Transportation officials urge drivers to make alternate plans during I-5 lane closures in Portland 

 If you live in the Portland-metro area, you might’ve heard about the plan to improve and expand I-5 through the Rose Quarter. On Friday night, that stretch of freeway through the Rose Quarter will be closed as the project begins in earnest for about 5 weeks. Rose Gerber is the Public Outreach and Media Manager for the I-5 Rose Quarter Improvement Project with the Oregon Department of Transportation. We get details from her about the scope of the project, how it is likely to affect traffic patterns in the coming weeks, and what ODOT and Portland transportation managers are doing to try to mitigate delays and encourage drivers to choose other routes and ways to travel during these major closures.

 

 

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Sep 10, 2026 1:12 PM
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New report says Oregon coast lacks vertical tsunami evacuation structures

In the event of a tsunami triggered by a Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake, residents of coastal communities in Oregon have less than 20 minutes from the time ground shaking starts to evacuate from Tsunami Hazard Zones. That’s according to a new report, published last week, by the Oregon Department of Emergency Management. According to the report, for many residents and visitors in the area, that wouldn’t be enough time to reach high ground.

The report releases guidance for implementing Vertical Evacuation Structures on the Oregon Coast — buildings that are made to withstand tsunami waves. Officials say the state has only one structure, and would need at least 15 to adequately fit the area for a disaster of that scale.  

 

Bridget Good is the Mitigation Program Analyst at the Oregon Department of Emergency Management, and she joins us to discuss the report and the guidelines.

 

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Sep 10, 2026 1:11 PM
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Portland musician MAE.SUN on John Coltrane’s influence and lasting legacy

OPB’s sister station KMHD has organized a month of events and programming this September celebrating the centennial birthday of of legendary jazz saxophonist John Coltrane. The community events include a concert performance next Wednesday of Coltrane’s seminal album “Blue Train” at the Aladdin Theater in Portland. 

 

Hailey Niswanger, who grew up in West Linn and performs as the jazz-expansive saxophonist and flutist MAE.SUN, will lead the sextet of musicians. They include Charlie Brown III on piano and Garrett Baxter on upright bass.  

 

MAE.SUN, Baxter and Brown III join us for a preview of next week’s concert. We’ll also talk with MAE.SUN about the influence Coltrane’s spiritual, boundary-breaking music has had on her, and her return to Portland after her home in Altadena near LA burned in January 2025. 

 

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Sep 9, 2026 1:24 PM
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Grim funding outlook for Oregon public colleges and universities

The Higher Education Coordinating Commission distributes funding and sets policies for Oregon’s community colleges and public universities. As OPB reported, HECC’s  Board approved last month a $4.7 billion budget request for the 2027-2029 biennium. Gov. Tina Kotek will consider the proposal as part of the overall state budget recommendations given to the state Legislature when it reconvenes next year. 

 

Oregon public colleges and universities are facing multiple financial headwinds that have grown worse in recent years. That includes stagnant state funding for higher education that has left Oregon near the bottom compared to other states.  

 

HECC board members have warned that greater investment in higher education is necessary amid rising administration and labor costs, canceled federal grants, inflation and other challenges. Year-over-year tuition increases amid declining student enrollment adds to the uncertainty facing Oregon’s public universities. 

 

Greg Hamann is the chair of HECC. He joins us for a discussion of the state of higher education funding for Oregon’s public colleges and universities.

 

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Sep 9, 2026 1:22 PM
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NASA studying ‘fire clouds’ in Oregon and the West that form above wildfires and create their own weather

Large and super-hot wildfires have been increasing as global temperatures rise. So too have the phenomenon they create: “pyrocumulonimbus clouds," better known by their informal,

easier-to-pronounce name, “fire clouds.” The large fires push air and particulates into the higher atmosphere where they can form thunderclouds that can produce electrical storms and tornadoes. The wind and lightning expand the large fires they were generated from. But this summer, NASA launched a new project collecting data on fire clouds using a modified U2 spy plane, including fires in Central Oregon. We learn more from Dr. David Peterson, an atmospheric scientist at the US Naval Research Laboratory in Monterey, CA and the principal investigator.

 

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Sep 9, 2026 1:22 PM
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Alex Tatarsky brings ethereal clowning to Portland’s TBA Fest

Alex Tatarsky has always loved performing. From singing operas at the age of 3 to now blending clowning, physical performance and comedy for their latest project, “Sad Boys in Harpy Land,” a narrative exploration of anguish and humor. The New York Times describes it as “a thrilling and frenetic mental breakdown.” Tatarasky will be performing their piece at the Portland Institute For Contemporary Art’s Timed Based Art Festival. They join us to share more about this work, and the different performance genres they draw on.

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Sep 8, 2026 1:29 PM
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Student journalism thriving in Battle Ground, WA

The number of high schools in the U.S. with school newspapers dropped nearly 20% from 2011- 2021. But students in some districts are launching or reinventing newspapers and magazines, mostly online. Battle Ground Public Schools in Washington is one such district. Students at Prairie High School run the Falcon Flyer; Battle Ground High School has the Tiger Times; and at Tukes Valley Middle School, a student with a small team launched a districtwide newsmagazine called Your Battle Ground Public Schools (Your BGPS). We talk with the editor of the Falcon Flyer, Kennedy Tandrow, a junior at Prairie High, and Rye Geilenfeldt, the managing editor and founder of Your BGPs.

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Sep 8, 2026 1:26 PM
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Nonprofit Dream Big City opens community plaza in Portland’s Central Eastside

The nonprofit Dream Big City aims to create safe, drug- and alcohol-free community events across Portland. Over the last six years, the organization has put on more than 170 events featuring live music, art, free meals and mentorship opportunities for youth. Its latest project is to turn a blighted street in Portland’s Central Eastside into a community plaza with skateboard ramps, basketball hoops and more.

 

Alex Murrell is the founder and executive director of Dream Big City. He joins us to talk more about the nonprofit’s work.

 

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Sep 8, 2026 1:26 PM
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Rebroadcast: A day at the Oregon State Fair

The 160th annual Oregon State Fair in Salem wraps up on Labor Day. The 10-day event features live music, monster trucks, carnival rides and competitions that showcase excellence in Oregon art, livestock, agriculture and more. From the tallest sunflower grown to blue ribbons awarded for beef and dairy cattle, the fair is also an opportunity to honor the hard work of future farmers, ranchers or hobbyists who’ve waited months to compete and show off their skills.

We visited the fair on opening day to talk with folks about what brought them there, whether it was livestock to judge, veggies to show off, deep-fried Oreos to sell or childhood memories to rekindle.

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Sep 7, 2026 12:0 PM
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From Coltrane to Cuban filin, KMHD’s jazz highlights in Septembe

“Think Out Loud” kicks off a series of monthly conversations with Meg Samples, general manager of member-supported KMHD jazz radio. Each month, we’ll hear about artists to add to your playlist, along with concerts and community events to attend. 

 

In September, that includes the annual Montavilla Jazz Festival. The three-day festival kicks off today and features performances by local artists, with a lineup this year that includes Jessie Marquez. The Portland vocalist joined “Think Out Loud” last month for an interview and studio performance of Cuban filin music.  

 

In honor of the centennial birthday of jazz legend John Coltrane, KMHD presents “A Month Supreme,” a series of events held across Portland celebrating Coltrane’s music, influence, and legacy. Fans of Coltrane’s seminal album “Blue Train” will want to check out a live performance of the entire album on Sep. 16 at the Aladdin Theater featuring Portland saxophonist MAE.SUN and other jazz artists. 

 

KMHD General Manager Meg Samples joins us for more details and music.

 

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Sep 4, 2026 1:23 PM
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Parks in Independence, OR close due to funding dispute

Last week, officials in the Willamette Valley  city of Independence closed its parks, the museum and threatened closure of the library, although state law forestalls that action. A $30,000 grant from a nonprofit, Friends of the Community Parks, has allowed two city parks to remain open through the end of the year. 

 

The closures come  after voters shot down an operations levy in November 2024. In June, the city council passed fees totaling a net increase of $12.65 a month per household to pay for city parks, a museum and the library. The city says it has no choice but to suspend its services after a referendum to reverse fees on residents qualified for the November ballot.

 

Greg Ellis, the former city manager of Independence, led this referendum effort, and he joins us to discuss the closure of city services. Also joining us is Kate Schwarzler, the mayor of Independence.

 

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Sep 4, 2026 1:22 PM
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Oregon’s state climatologist says strong El Niño likely to bring warmer weather and more rain this winter

The weather pattern known as El Niño is still gathering strength, and climatologists say it could be one of the biggest on record. The phenomenon is caused by rising surface temperatures in the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. The weather pattern is expected to bring big impacts to Oregon come winter. State Climatologist Larry O’Neill says that’s likely to mean warmer and wetter weather. He joins us to tell us more.

 

 

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Sep 3, 2026 1:20 PM
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Proposed changes to National Historic Preservation Act could exclude Native American input on federal projects

The Trump administration is trying to loosen regulations around development projects on historic and culturally significant land. Proposed changes to the National Historic Preservation Act would make it optional for federal agencies to consult with Native American nations about these projects, as reported locally in Underscore Native News. The proposal would also change the definition of a historic property to exclude mountains, rivers and other landscape features that tribes consider sacred or culturally significant.

 

Crystal Miller is the cultural sovereignty director for the Association on American Indian Affairs. She joins us to talk about what the changes could mean for tribal sovereignty.

 

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Sep 3, 2026 1:19 PM
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Oregon’s landmark Recycling Modernization Act clears legal hurdle

Oregon lawmakers passed the Plastic Pollution and Recycling Modernization Act (RMA) in 2021. It was the first law of its kind, putting much of the responsibility to reduce waste on producers and manufacturers. California, Washington, Colorado and a handful of other states have now passed similar laws. The Oregon law took effect July 1, 2025 and the state began collecting fees from producers to expand recycling infrastructure. A recent report highlighted Oregon’s progress in the first year, including dozens of new producer-funded collection sites, 36,000 new recycling carts and $30 million dollars to improve and modernize recycling facilities. 

 

The National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors sued the state to block the law shortly after it went into effect, but a federal judge has now rejected those arguments and upheld the constitutionality of Oregon’s law. We talk about what’s next with Dan Leif, policy implementation director at The Recycling Partnership, a nonprofit helping municipalities all over the country create and implement these kinds of laws. 

 

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Sep 3, 2026 1:17 PM
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Portlander explains mobile dwelling units, their rise in popularity

 In 2021, the city of Portland officially legalized living in mobile dwelling units on private property. MDUs include recreational vehicles and tiny homes on wheels, which are different from accessory dwelling units, or ADUs. According to a recent survey reported in Sightline Institute, MDUs have been seeing an increase in popularity since 2020.

 

Kol Peterson conducted the survey, owns Accessory Dwelling Strategies and is an ADU and MDU expert. He joins us to explain more on MDUs and why they are growing in popularity.

 

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Sep 2, 2026 1:23 PM
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Volunteers help search for missing Indigenous women

 Kimberly Lining remembers calling the information number on a flyer for a missing Indigenous woman and learning that the photo on the flyer didn’t even belong to the missing woman. The frustration born in that moment led Lining to launch the MMIW Search and Hope Alliance, a group of volunteers she mobilizes to help look for missing Indigenous women and girls. Lining partners with the Oregon State Police, families, tribes and others to help get the word out on social media and in-person searches. We talk to Lining about her work.

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Sep 2, 2026 1:20 PM
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Oregon State University study finds lead levels high near regional airports

The largest known source of lead emissions is leaded aviation fuel, most commonly used for small aircraft in small, regional airports. A new study from Oregon State University has found that this fuel leads to more lead pollution in surrounding urban areas and neighborhoods, which can affect human health through poor air quality and soil contamination. The study looked at air quality surrounding regional airports near Hillsboro and Troutdale, two of the top three lead-emitters in Oregon.

 

Alyssa Shiel, an associate professor in the college of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences at OSU, has been studying lead and heavy metal contaminates for nearly a decade. She joins us to share her findings and what concerns they raise.

 

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Sep 2, 2026 1:20 PM
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Oregon State University’s master gardener program providing gardening advice throughout the state since 1976

Oregon State University's master gardener program has been running for 50 years and provides advice for gardeners in all but nine counties in Oregon. It has evolved since its 1976 conception to include plant clinics, an internet helpline and counsel for gardening questions via phone by a master gardener who lives and gardens in your county.

 

But what is the evolving role and importance of this kind of guidance when information is so widely available online? To answer that, we’ll hear from Chris Rusch, president of the Oregon Master Gardener Association, and Pat Kolling, who’s been a master gardener volunteer for the last two decades, based in Bend.

 

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Sep 1, 2026 1:44 PM
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Wave energy testing facility opens off Oregon Coast near Newport

After more than a decade, a new facility that aims to spur the development of wave energy technology opened last week off the Oregon Coast. AP first reported the opening of PacWave, which features two sites in the open ocean near Newport where companies can test devices they’re building to convert energy from waves into electricity.  

 

Oregon State University developed PacWave with $140 million in funding from the U.S. Department of Energy. It’s the first such testing facility connected to the continental U.S. energy grid and is pre-permitted. Director Dan Hellin says that can save companies time and money since they don’t need to secure additional state and federal approval for testing, which he expects to start next summer. The Bonneville Power Administration has an exclusive agreement with OSU to buy all the electricity generated by PacWave.    

 

But hurdles remain. As OPB’s “All Science, No Fiction” previously reported, companies trying to develop this technology have hit federal funding delays. The Trump administration has also cancelled offshore and solar wind projects, raising concerns about the future of renewables in the U.S.  

 

Hellin joins us for a discussion. 

 

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Sep 1, 2026 1:44 PM
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Laws protect faith healers in Idaho despite children's deaths

Since 2015, almost every year a child in the faith-healing sect Followers of Christ in Idaho have died from a treatable condition. That’s according to new reporting from ProPublica.

 

In Oregon, where Followers of Christ are also present, lawmakers have previously removed faith-healing protections that Idaho has. Authorities in the state say this has led to a reduction of these kinds of incidents as parents are more likely to seek medical care for their children when needed. Audrey Dutton is a reporter for ProPublica. She joins us to share more on her reporting.

 

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Aug 31, 2026 1:14 PM
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