Leni Zumas and Cleyvis Natera in conversation at the Portland Book Festival

Think Out Loud

Leni Zumas and Cleyvis Natera in conversation at the Portland Book Festival

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Published on Dec 25, 2025, 12:06:20 PM
Total time: 00:51:29

Episode Description

What does survival look like if it comes at the expense of freedom? How can we build safe places in an increasingly unstable world? These questions are at the heart of two new books by authors Leni Zumas and Cleyvis Natera. Zumas’s book “Wolf Bells” tells the story of an intergenerational group home determined to make a space for people who fall through capitalism’s cracks. Natera’s book “The Grand Paloma Resort” tells the story of staff at an exclusive Caribbean resort as they navigate class, race and colonialism. OPB’s Allison Frost spoke to Leni Zumas and Cleyvis Natera at the 2025 Portland Book Festival.

 

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