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Portland’s Fertile Ground Festival of new plays offers audiences an enormous variety

The Fertile Ground festival of news plays in development has become a staple of the Portland theatre scene since it first began in 2009. This year’s festival has expanded to 17 days, the longest festival yet, to take in the 80-some different productions that run through April 26. We talk with the festival director Tamara Carroll and Kristin Tehrani, who helped create “When I Was a Mexican: A Bollywood Musical.”

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Apr 17, 2026 1:13 PM
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How charitable donation bins in Oregon, and around the US, can be deadly

 Charitable donation bins, the large steel and metal boxes often found in parking lots, began appearing in the U.S. in the 1950s. By 1960, Portland had more than 70 goodwill bins, collecting tens of thousands of bags of donated goods a year. But there is a cost that comes with charitable giving. New reporting from The Believer found more than 30 documented cases where people have died while trying to access donated goods. Many of the deceased were people experiencing homelessness, and the documented number of deaths is believed to be an undercount.

 

Paul Collins, an English professor at Portland State University, wrote about this issue for the publication. He joins us to share more about the people who have died because of these bins and why they are so deadly.

 

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Apr 17, 2026 1:13 PM
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First year of Washington County’s deflection program shows progress, areas to improve

Oregon voters passed Measure 110 in 2020. The goal was to decriminalize small amounts of street drugs and move users into treatment. That goal was ultimately not realized, and in 2024, the legislature changed the drug laws. They implemented a new program: it let counties set up deflection programs to direct people facing misdemeanor possession charges away from the criminal justice system and into treatment.

 

Most counties set up these deflection programs, and some, like Washington county, kicked off their program on as early as they could: Sept. 1, 2024. Now, a new report is out that details how many people went through the deflection program, or otherwise received treatment and social services to support their sobriety. We’re joined by Danielle Far, the senior program coordinator of the county’s deflection program.

 

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Apr 17, 2026 1:13 PM
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Salem McKay High School teacher wins state award for improving youth financial literacy

For more than four years, business teacher Marcia Latta has been helping youth improve their financial literacy at McKay High School in Salem. In recognition of her efforts, Latta was recently named the Oregon Financial Empowerment Educator of the Year by Oregon Treasurer Elizabeth Steiner. The Salem Statesman Journal first reported news of Latta’s award, which includes a $1,500 cash prize for Latta, $500 for her school and $500 total in college savings plan gift certificates for her students.  

 

Starting next year, all Oregon high school students will be required to earn a half credit in personal finance education in order to graduate. Latta teaches two classes at McKay, including one that’s a requirement on personal finance that helps high school juniors understand bank loans for car or home purchases, how to save for retirement and other financial concepts. For three years now, Latta has also used a grant from the Oregon Department of Human Services to organize free tax preparation clinics for students, many of whom she says get refunds on their filed returns. 

 

Latta joins us to share her work educating youth about their personal finances.

 

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Apr 16, 2026 1:10 PM
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Why some researchers are editing human genes in embryos

 In 2023, the FDA approved the first gene therapies to help treat people with sickle cell disease. The treatment is for patients 12 years and older, but what if you could use this technology before someone is born? That’s what some researchers, and others, believe is the hope for the future. The idea is to use CRISPR, a technology used to edit the genes of living beings, during in vitro fertilization. It is much easier said than done, but could be possible in theory. Ashley Smart is the associate director of the Knight Science Journalism Program at MIT. He is also a senior editor at Undark and reported on embryonic gene editing for the publication. He joins us to share how these treatments and technologies might work, as well as the current challenges and limitations.

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Apr 16, 2026 1:7 PM
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Ukrainian folk singers honor 40th anniversary of Chernobyl nuclear disaster with Portland concert

An explosion on April 26, 1986 at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine, which was then a part of the Soviet Union, resulted in the worst nuclear disaster in history. Massive amounts of radioactive material spewed into the atmosphere. At least 30 people were killed. A Chernobyl Exclusion Zone was established and today remains largely uninhabited with lingering radioactive contamination

 

To mark the 40th anniversary of the disaster, a free concert is being held tomorrow night at Portland State University. The concert is being organized by Inna Kovtun, a Ukrainian singer, folklorist and ethnomusicologist who settled in Portland four years ago with her daughter after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. “Chornobyl: A Song Never Silenced” showcases the folklore and music traditions of Polissia, the region in northern Ukraine which is home to Chernobyl, or Chornobyl, as it’s known in Ukraine. 


The concert features performances by Kovtun and her friends, Nadia Tarnowsky, a Ukrainian American Fulbright researcher in Ukrainian folk songs who lives in Cleveland; and Hanna Tishchenko, a Ukrainian folk singer who lives in Chicago. Kovtun and Tarnowsky join us for a discussion and a studio performance with Tishchenko.

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Apr 16, 2026 1:6 PM
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The Portland-based band The Builders and The Butchers release new album

The Portland-based band The Builders and The Butchers released their seventh album, “No Tomorrow,” this month. The band started in 2005 busking and playing house shows and are now known for playing raucous, audience-involved stage shows. Many of the songs on the new album are a response to the current political moment in the U.S. Vocalist and songwriter Ryan Solee joins us for an acoustic performance and interview.

 

The Builders and The Butchers will have an album-release party at The Aladdin Theater in Portland April 16.

 

00:25:27
Apr 15, 2026 1:16 PM
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Coyotes in Washington carry tapeworms that can be passed to dogs, humans in rare cases

Researchers in Washington state have found that about a third of the local coyotes studied have a species of tapeworm. These can be passed to dogs, and in rare instances humans. These parasites are also present in foxes and other canid urban wildlife. Domestic dogs can also contract them, and it can be years before the symptoms of the severe disease they cause are detected, making diagnosis and treatment difficult. In rare instances, dogs can spread the tapeworms to humans. We talk with Yasmine Hentati, the study’s lead author who recently got her doctorate in environmental and forest science from the University of Washington. She shares more about these parasites and the relative risks for people and dogs.

00:09:01
Apr 15, 2026 1:16 PM
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New maps assess health of sagebrush ecosystems across the West

Vast expanses of the American West, including parts of Central and Eastern Oregon, share a unique ecosystem characterized by sagebrush, wildflowers and a wide array of perennial grasses. This “sagebrush sea” is one of the largest contiguous ecotypes in the U.S., but it faces increasing threats from wildfire, invasive species and development.

 

A new tool aims to help land managers quickly assess the health of these vast regions. Conservation groups, state and federal agencies and local leaders partnered to create digital maps that provide a broad view of where sagebrush ecosystems are thriving and where they hang in the balance.


Anya Tyson is the Oregon Sagebrush Sea Program Director for The Nature Conservancy, which helped create the maps. She joins us to share more

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Apr 15, 2026 1:16 PM
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Why Portland General Electric and Pacific Power customers are getting another rate hike in April

Beginning April 1, two of Oregon’s largest utilities increased their rates for residential customers. Portland General Electric raised rates by 5%, and Pacific Power’s rates went up by nearly 3%. These rate hikes are on top of others in recent years — since 2020, PGE’s residential rates have gone up nearly 60%.

 

Usually, rate increases arise in November, but due to the Fairness & Affordability in Residential Energy Act, passed last year, utilities can no longer increase rates during winter months, when utility costs are often at their peak. However, this April rate hike has hit at another challenging time for consumers, with gas prices in Oregon soaring due to the war in Iran.


We'll hear details about these increases from Kristin Sheeran, the Vice President of Policy and Sustainability for PGE, and Bob Jenks, the executive director of the Oregon Citizens’ Utility Board.

 

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Apr 14, 2026 1:19 PM
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Portland OB-GYN's new book focuses on the labor and delivery experience

 In Jennifer Lincoln’s work as an obstetrics hospitalist, she met many new parents who were fearful and felt uninformed about the labor and delivery process, even when arriving at the hospital for their own births. She’s quick to note, however, that this gap in understanding isn’t due to patients being lazy, or their lack of interest in learning, but due to brief prenatal visits and the often overburdened system of maternal healthcare in the U.S.

 

A 2024 report by March of Dimes, a nonprofit focused on maternal and infant health, found that over 35% of counties in the U.S. are considered maternity care deserts, and labor and delivery units are being stretched thin, especially in rural areas.

 

Lincoln was finding that patients weren’t given enough time with their healthcare providers to dive into all questions about the complexities of the labor and delivery process, and often turned to resources like TikTok and Instagram to hear from other mothers and get their questions answered. 


Her work as an obstetrician and ability to distill complex topics on reproductive and maternal care led Lincoln to write “The Birth Book: An OB-GYN’s Guide to Demystifying Labor and Delivery.” She joins us to discuss the book which covers the labor and delivery experience from prenatal visits to postpartum care.

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Apr 14, 2026 1:19 PM
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What prediction markets can tell us about Oregon’s GOP gubernatorial candidate

 Over the last year, prediction markets have grown into a multibillion-dollar industry. Prediction markets, such as sites like Polymarket, Kalshi and Robinhood, allow bettors to put down money on the likelihood of an event happening — including for political races in Oregon. Market sites show users are placing their bets on who the Republican candidate will be for Oregon’s governor. OPB politics reporter Dirk Vanderhart covered this story. He joins us to share more.

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Apr 13, 2026 1:26 PM
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Portland proposal to raise pay for Uber and Lyft drivers opposed by business lobbying group, ride-hailing companies

Portland city councilors are discussing a proposal that would raise take-home pay for Uber and Lyft drivers by limiting how much money the companies can take from each trip. Councilors are considering a limit of 20% for the portion that Uber and Lyft can take from a driver. Currently, the amount isn’t fixed, and can sometimes be over40%.

 

Uber and Lyft have threatened to leave Portland over the proposal. Uber claims it would force the company to raise its rates or operate at a loss for most rides.

 

The Portland Metro Chamber and the “We Play for Portland” Coalition, which includes the Portland Trail Blazers, the Oregon Symphony, Portland Art Museum and other Portland sports and arts organizations are opposed to the city council's draft proposal. The groups warned city council in a letter they released that if rideshare companies decrease their services or leave Portland, it could greatly affect audience turnout at Portland events.

 

We hear from Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guinea, as well as Jon Isaacs, the Executive Vice President of Public Affairs for the Portland Metro Chamber of Commerce, about the draft proposal and what it could mean for the future of rideshare services in Portland.

 

00:26:47
Apr 13, 2026 1:26 PM
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Cochlear implant helps Portlander make new music after losing hearing in one ear

Portlander Sean Wolfe has been making electronic music off and on under the moniker Salvo Beta for more than three decades. During the pandemic, he started experiencing hearing loss in his right ear and other symptoms such as balance problems and tinnitus, or a ringing sensation in the ear. Wolfe was diagnosed with a kind of rare, noncancerous tumor that left untreated can lead to permanent hearing loss, facial paralysis and worse.  

 

So in October 2024, Wolfe got surgery to not only remove the tumor, but also get a cochlear implant, an electronic device affixed behind the ear that directly stimulates the auditory nerve. Although the surgery was a success, he had months of rehabilitation and adjusting to a new sonic environment. That includes difficulty hearing certain kinds of sounds and experiencing shifts in sound frequencies.

 

Wolfe says his cochlear implant has opened new creative doors musically. He contributed two new songs to an album of remixes that will be released later this month by Chicago indie rock band Still Machine. Wolfe wants to compose music specifically for people who are hard of hearing, and he’s finishing work on an album of new, original material. He joins us to share his journey as a musician with a cochlear implant. 

 

00:24:54
Apr 10, 2026 1:8 PM
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Industry groups raise concerns about Oregon's Climate Protection Program

 Oregon’s Climate Protection Program was established in 2021 to place a cap on greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels throughout the state. The program hadn’t gone into effect for most natural gas customers until November 2025. Natural gas users must use less natural gas, or face higher costs. 

 

Many environmentalists are happy with the program and its progress towards reducing carbon emissions, but many policymakers view the program as flawed. Nigel Jaquiss, the senior investigative reporter at the Oregon Journalism Project, has been looking into this program, and how the climate policy is affecting businesses throughout the state.

 

Editor's note: This description and headline has been updated to more accurately describe Oregon's Climate Protection Program's impact on industrial and commercial users of natural gas.

 

00:15:11
Apr 10, 2026 1:8 PM
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Vancouver’s housing construction not keeping pace with city’s expected growth

 By 2045, Vancouver’s population is expected to grow by more than 80,000 new residents – a roughly 40% increase. According to Vancouver’s 2025 Housing Report, the city will need to develop 2,500 new units a year to meet housing demand. But the city is falling well short of that goal for both market-rate and affordable housing projects, as OPB recently reported.  

 

City officials point to a range of factors for the slowdown. That includes rising construction costs, high interest rates, the ongoing effects of tariffs and the difficulty of accessing state funds to develop multifamily, affordable housing units. 

 

Meanwhile, Vancouver is close to finalizing a new comprehensive plan to guide the city’s growth over the next 20 years. The draft calls for updating zoning codes to ease higher-density housing development in neighborhoods, for example, which would align with new state requirements to boost housing development. 

 

OPB’s Southwest Washington Bureau Chief Erik Neumann joins us for more details. 

 

00:09:26
Apr 10, 2026 1:8 PM
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Students at two Portland high schools organize climate justice summit

On Saturday, a climate justice summit will take place at Lincoln High School in Southwest Portland. The event is free, open to the public and is being organized by students at Lincoln’s environmental justice class and students at Ida B. Wells’ Eco Action Club. It’s the first time students at the two PPS schools have collaborated to create a climate justice summit, according to Tim Swinehart, a Lincoln social studies teacher who launched the environmental justice course in 2016.   

 

Lincoln and Wells students will moderate a panel discussion at the summit and present workshops such as one on lobbying and giving testimony, which they did at the state legislature in Salem earlier this year and last December during a Portland Planning Commission meeting. The students also invited advocacy groups such as the Braided River Campaign, Sunrise Movement and Neighbors for Clean Air to give workshops on how to organize a protest and other topics.

 

Lincoln High School senior Leah Almeida and Ida B. Wells High School junior Emma Lopez join us, along with Swinehart, for a preview of Saturday’s activities. 

 

00:15:40
Apr 9, 2026 1:12 PM
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What the reorganization of the U.S. Forest Service will mean for the Pacific Northwest

The Trump administration announced a massive reorganization of the U.S. Forest Service last week. The agency’s headquarters will move from Washington, D.C., to Salt Lake City, Utah, and its regional offices will be replaced by 15 state-based offices. Additionally, more than 50 research stations will close across 31 states, including one in Oregon and two in Washington. 


Christine Peterson is a freelance reporter covering wildlife, the environment and outdoor recreation. She wrote about the reorganization for High Country News and joins us with more details.

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Apr 9, 2026 1:12 PM
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‘Price of Justice’ report says rural, low-income and BIPOC Oregonians suffer disproportionate financial burden in court

The Oregon justice system imposes fees, fines and restitution on people found guilty of a wide range of crimes. These different kinds of financial penalties are having a severe and disproportionate impact on people of color and those in low- income neighborhoods and rural communities, according to a new report called “The Price of Justice in Oregon.” The broad look at jurisdictions all over the state was years in the making and resulted from the combined efforts of the Oregon Justice Resource Center, the Policy Advocacy Clinic at the UC Berkeley School of Law, and the Portland-based CLEAR Clinic, which provides free legal services to Oregonians. We get more details and the report’s policy recommendations from Portlander Gus Patel-Tupper with the UC Berkeley School of Law. 

 

00:22:59
Apr 9, 2026 1:12 PM
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Jackson County nonprofit health provider rolls out new mobile health clinic

In February, a bright blue, 38-foot-long, custom-built mobile health clinic rolled into Jackson County. Five days a week, it provides an array of free or low-cost services in Medford and Ashland that range from filling medications and running lab tests to dental exams and wound treatment. The mobile health clinic is operated by La Clinica, a nonprofit that for nearly 40 years has been helping meet the health care needs of primarily low-income residents in Jackson County. 

 

This is La Clinica’s third mobile health clinic and the first time it has been able to provide these services in nearly three years after an arson fire destroyed its previous mobile clinic just a few days after it began seeing patients. Roughly 160 patients have already visited the new mobile clinic during its stops at food pantries, campgrounds, apartment complexes and other sites, according to Zulma Larios, La Clinica’s field-based care manager. The patients include Latinx residents afraid of visiting hospitals and clinics because of increased federal immigration enforcement, unhoused people and former adults in custody reentering society. Larios joins us to share more details about the impact the mobile health clinic is having.

 

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Apr 8, 2026 1:21 PM
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OHSU program helps children on Medicaid prepare for kindergarten

Access to preschool in Oregon remains limited, with more than half of the state’s school districts reporting that demand has outpaced available slots. The deficit could leave many children without the early literacy and math skills they’re expected to bring into kindergarten. 

 

The Kinder Coaching Program at Oregon Health & Science University aims to incorporate school readiness into medical care. During a routine visit, medical providers can refer children on Medicaid to a team of community health workers who help them develop the cognition, communication and social-emotional skills they need for kindergarten.  

 

Jaime Peterson is a pediatrician at OHSU and director of the Kinder Coaching Program. Isha Syll is a certified community health worker and one of the program’s “kinder coaches.” They both join us to talk about the importance of providing early learning opportunities for low-income families.

 

00:14:51
Apr 8, 2026 1:19 PM
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Nurses say patients at the Oregon State Hospital in Salem still at risk

The Oregon State Hospital in Salem, the state’s only public psychiatric hospital, is facing multiple lawsuits alleging retaliation against those who have formally raised serious issues about the way it is treating — or failing to treat — its patients.

OSH has been out of compliance with federal standards in recent years, and it has been found in contempt of court for not admitting mentally ill criminal defendants quickly enough.

Last year, Lindsey Sande, the deputy chief nursing officer at OHS was so concerned she made a formal complaint. But she says nothing was done, and the patient died 9 days later. She says she was demoted shortly thereafter, along with two other whistleblowers.

We’ll talk with Lillian Mongeau Hughes who covers homelessness and mental health for The Oregonian/Oregonlive.com. And we hear directly from Sande about how she sees OSH patients being cared for and how employees who speak up are being retaliated against.

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Apr 8, 2026 1:17 PM
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