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Central Oregon records steep decline in people experiencing homelessness, according to latest count

Central Oregon recorded a nearly 20% drop in people experiencing homelessness compared to last year. That’s according to an annual Point in Time count that took place this year from Jan. 27 through Feb. 2 in Crook, Deschutes and Jefferson Counties and the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs.

 

Eliza Wilson is the chair of the Homeless Leadership Coalition in Central Oregon and the executive director of RootedHomes, an affordable housing developer based in Bend. Wilson says this has been the largest year-over-year decline she has seen in over 20 years of helping with the annual snapshot of people experiencing homelessness in the region. She attributes this unprecedented decline to opening new shelters and expanding shelter bed capacity in communities like Madras, Bend, Redmond and Prineville, while also providing rental assistance and case management to help people transition into stable housing. 

 

Wilson joins us for more details on the progress that’s being made in Central Oregon to tackle homelessness and the work that still needs to be done.

 

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May 22, 2026 12:27 PM
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ODOT reflects on failed gas tax and future of transportation funding

Oregonians overwhelmingly voted against Measure 120, a proposal meant to address funding shortfalls for the Oregon Department of Transportation.

 

Known as the gas tax, the measure would have increased the state’s gas tax by 6 cents per gallon, temporarily hike payroll tax, and double fees for registrations and titles. Without the tax, the agency only has funding to support core services until the end of 2027. Daniel Porter is ODOT's Finance and Budget Division Administrator. He joins us to share how he’s thinking about the future of the agency’s budget.

 

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May 22, 2026 12:27 PM
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Oregon Community Foundation investing $100 million to build the state’s housing supply

The housing crisis is worse than ever, and it’s one that many elected representatives and nonprofits have been working on for some time. Last month Gov. Kotek signed a package of housing related bills into law. They allow cities to expand their urban growth boundaries, protect existing affordable housing and provide financing to encourage the construction of new housing. Estimates put the need for new homes at 29,500 a year to keep up with population growth and the demand for housing.

 

Constructing new housing for middle income families is at the heart of the Oregon Community Foundation’s announcement of its $100 million “Building Hope Fund.” OCF says it’s a kind of down payment to spur even more investment from other sources to create a fund that will make affordable loans to developers so they can build middle income housing. OCF’s goal is 10,000 new homes built all around Oregon in the next 10 years.


Lisa Mensah is the President and CEO of the Foundation. She joins us to explain how she sees the loan program working and how it fits into their extensive and longstanding granting program for housing and other community needs throughout the state.

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May 22, 2026 12:27 PM
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OSU and UP researchers on medical mistrust in the age of social media

A recent study by Pew Research showed that half of U.S. adults under 50 get health and wellness information from influencers on social media and podcasts. One in five people surveyed said the information they get from influencers is different than the information from medical professionals. Ashley Hass is an assistant professor of marketing at the University of Portland, who focuses on digital marketing, social media influencers, and the digital wellness of consumers. Jonathan Garcia directs the public health graduate program at OSU. He studies medical mistrust and misinformation. They join us to share more on the impact of the wellness industry on social media and its implications for public health. 

 

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May 21, 2026 1:28 PM
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Portland businesses hit hard by tariffs await refunds months after US Supreme Court ruling

 In February, a split ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the sweeping tariffs President Trump had imposed early last year under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. As a result, last month the Customs and Border Protection agency opened an online portal for importers and customs brokers seeking refunds for the estimated $166 billion in tariffs companies had paid to import goods. 

 

Some businesses have started receiving their refunds while others, including Portland-based Steven Smith Teamaker, are still waiting. As the Portland Business Journal reported last month, 90% of its ingredients are imported, making the company subject to volatile tariff rates that rocketed as high as 50% at one point last year. CEO Darren Marshall says that the company spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in unanticipated tariffs, which its customs broker has filed on its behalf to recoup. Revant Optics, a Portland manufacturer of replacement lenses for sunglasses that launched its own line of sunglasses last June, is owed nearly $700,000 in duties it paid on imports from China and Taiwan, according to CEO and founder Jason Bolt. 

 

Marshall and Bolt join us for more details, along with Chris McKinney, president of Brownstone International. The Portland-based customs broker has filed claims for tariff refunds on behalf of Steven Smith Teamaker and dozens of other clients.

 

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May 21, 2026 1:20 PM
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Former Nike Oregon Project runner tells her story in a new memoir

At 17 years old, Mary Cain became one of few females to ever run 800 meters faster than two minutes. Later that year she became the youngest American runner ever to compete in the World Championships. And all the while she says she was facing bullying from coaches and teammates and emotional abuse from Nike Oregon Project coach Alberto Salazar. Cain has written a new memoir, “This is Not About Running,” and joins us to talk about her experiences.

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May 20, 2026 1:19 PM
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Oregon voters reject gas tax, Christine Drazan wins GOP nomination for fall rematch with Gov. Kotek

 Oregon voters resoundingly rejected a statewide ballot measure that would have raised the state gas tax from 40 to 46 cents and  doubled car title and registration fees to help fund road maintenance and other transportation projects. Measure 120 was widely expected to fail, especially as gas prices continue to soar in Oregon and across the nation.

 

Last year, Gov. Tina Kotek and Democrats in the Legislature approved a bill that included the gas tax and fee hikes, but Republican lawmakers succeeded in raising enough signatures to put the issue before voters. Democrats, however, countered by ensuring the measure appeared on the May ballot instead of in November, when Gov. Kotek is up for reelection. 

 

Gov. Kotek will now face Republican state Sen. Christine Drazan in a rematch of the 2022 gubernatorial race. On Tuesday, Republican voters selected Drazan to be their gubernatorial nominee over former Portland Trail Blazer Chris Dudley, state Rep. Ed Diehl and other candidates. 

 

OPB political reporter Lauren Dake joins us for more details about Drazan’s victory and the failed gas tax measure.

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May 20, 2026 1:19 PM
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BizTown gives Portland-area kids a glimpse into adulthood

According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, there are nearly 170 Million employed civilians in the American workforce. However, that number may be an undercount because it does not include kids working at BizTown.

 

Junior Achievement’s BizTown gives kids in fourth, fifth and sixth grade the chance to experience working in a simulated city in various fields, including healthcare, construction, food service, journalism, banking and more. Kids are given jobs based on interviews they’ve done and BizTown money to purchase various goods and services in their make believe city.

 

Host Dave Miller and producer Rolie Hernandez spent a day at Biztown recently, talking to students at Boring's Hood View Adventist School and Vancouver's Columbia Valley Elementary to find out what a day of adulthood was like for students. They also spoke to the actual adult responsible for the exercise: Barbara Smith, CEO of Junior Achievement's BizTown.

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May 19, 2026 1:0 PM
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Woodburn school board, teacher’s union on protections against Immigration and Customs Enforcement activity in schools

The Woodburn School District and Woodburn Education Association are currently amid a contract dispute that has lasted over a year. One issue that has been highly contested in the community is codifying rights and protections around Immigration and Customs enforcement activity on school campuses in the district, where 87% of the student population is Latino. 

 

The Woodburn School Board has had heavy turnover the past year, since the prior board sparked community backlash after their management of the “Safe and Welcoming Schools resolution,” — causing many to lose their seats. District policies were already in place to protect students against ICE enforcement, but supporters of the resolution maintained it was an important step by school leaders to reaffirm and publicly support these protections in the largely-immigrant led community.

 

We’ll hear from Jason Levin, a union representative with the Woodburn Education Association and a Career and Technical Education teacher at Woodburn High School, as well as Woodburn School District Superintendent Juan Larios, and Debbie Ballweber, chair of the Woodburn School Board.

 

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May 19, 2026 1:0 PM
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Late Portland documentary filmmaker Brian Lindstrom focused on people society ‘put an X through’

Portland filmmaker Brian Lindstrom died last Friday, May 15, 2026 at age 65.  He was diagnosed with the rare brain disease Progressive Supranuclear Palsy only last month. 

“He was a stellar husband. He was the most magnificent dad,” wrote his wife author Cheryl Strayed on Instagram Friday. “He was a man whose every word and deed was driven by kindness, compassion, and generosity. He saw the goodness in everyone. He believed that we are all sacred and redeemable.”

Lindstrom was a guest on “Think Out Loud" in 2015 to talk about his film “Mothering Inside,” a program that aimed to keep families intact after mothers are sent to prison. 

He said the film was the third in a trilogy, after “Finding Normal” and “Alien Boy: The Life and Death of James Chasse," all centered around one thing: 

“Really trying to shine a light on people that we, as society, usually put an X through, and try to reveal their humanity and strength. And I feel so privileged to have been let into the program and to really see these women, not only nurture and develop bonds with their children, but really work on themselves and change. Their kind of life story in a sense, to change the way they thought of themselves and to put their experiences in a different context: one based on strength … I found that wonderful spiritual humility that comes about when someone takes a hard look at their life, admits that it's not working, and will do anything to change it.”

 It was Lindstrom’s wish that any donations made in his memory go to the  Family Preservation Project, the organization that runs the “Mothering Inside” program.

To hear a longer excerpt that includes a participant in the program who was in conversation with Lindstrom and “Think Out Loud” host Dave Miller, click the arrow below.

 

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May 18, 2026 1:35 PM
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Rate of abuse of Oregon foster kids is at a record high

Children in the foster care system are among the most vulnerable in Oregon. Their mistreatment was one of the key reasons a class action lawsuit was brought against the state. The 2024 settlement included a number of required actions to decrease the rate of abuse and improve the lives of children in the state’s custody. The state recently submitted its first settlement-mandated report of its progress, including increasing the number of kids placed with a member of their family. But the increase in abuse cases is noteworthy, says OPB reporter Lauren Dake, given the policy priorities of the child welfare system after the class action settlement. Dake joins us to share more about the latest numbers and what state officials say they’re going to do about it.  

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May 18, 2026 1:16 PM
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A look at Oregon’s wildfire funding ahead of possibly historic fire season

As wildfires grow larger and more destructive across the West, state governments are having a hard time paying for response and prevention. Oregon lawmakers were called into an emergency session in December 2024 after the state’s most expensive fire season left the Oregon Department of Forestry with nearly $100 million in unpaid bills. They also created a new tax in the 2025 session on nicotine pouches, such as Zyn, to fund wildfire prevention.

 

Kyle Williams is the deputy director of fire operations for ODF. He joins us with more details about the state’s wildfire funding ahead of what could be a historic fire season.

 

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May 18, 2026 1:16 PM
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Oregon Supreme Court upholds Washington County’s flavored tobacco ban

The Oregon Supreme Court unanimously ruled last week that Washington County can ban the sale of flavored tobacco products, including vapes and hookah. County commissioners passed the ban in 2021, but it’s been tied up in court since retailers sued to stop it in 2022. The decision came just days after the federal Food and Drug Administration, for the first time, authorized the sale of some fruit-flavored vape pods.

 

Gwyn Ashcom is a senior program coordinator at Washington County Public Health. She joins us to share more about the county’s plans now that the ban can go forward.

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May 15, 2026 1:5 PM
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Portland-based nonprofit aims to support underrepresented independent filmmakers

Last December, Kareem Alston-Rosales launched the nonprofit “Film 4 Good Fund.” Alston-Rosales noticed gaps in access to funding for independent filmmakers after years of work in philanthropy. The nonprofit, which aims to make it easier for independent filmmakers to receive direct grant funding for projects that are nearing the finish line, just gave out its first grant last week to Portland-based filmmaker Ime N. Etuk. 

Alston-Rosales and Etuk join us to discuss the Film 4 Good Fund’s work, and what these pathways to grant funding can mean for independent filmmakers.

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May 15, 2026 1:5 PM
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Providers of medication abortion for Oregon patients say access to this care remains unchanged

Medication abortions now comprise up to an estimated two-thirds of all abortions in the U.S., and about a quarter of the mifepristone-misoprostol combination are prescribed via telehealth. Medication abortions are safe and effective when used within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. Forty percent of all abortions occur at 6 weeks or less, another 38% between 7 - 9 weeks, and 14% between 10 - 13 weeks, according to the Guttmacher Institute. 

 

Not having to visit a doctor in person to get the medication can make all the difference for access, particularly for those who are low-income or live in rural areas. Telehealth access to mifepristone was briefly paused after the state of Louisiana sued the FDA, saying its rules violated its total abortion ban.  On May 1, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals granted Louisiana's request for a stay, which meant doctors could not prescribe the drugs via telehealth. But the U.S. Supreme Court blocked that stay, restoring the FDA’s rules while the Louisiana lawsuit continues. 

 

Sara Kennedy the CEO of Planned Parenthood Columbia Willadrmette and an OBGYN, and Amy Handler is the CEO of Planned Parenthood of Southwestern Oregon. They join us to discuss the implications of this case—and the impact of the law signed this week by Gov. Tina Kotek to restore Planned Parenthood’s medicaid funding.

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May 15, 2026 1:0 PM
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First Schnitzer Prize of the West awarded to Native American leader of restoration project on Idaho, Utah border

This Saturday, the inaugural Schnitzer Prize of the West will be awarded to Brad Parry, vice chairman of the Northwestern Band of the Shoshone Nation, at a ceremony at the Portland Art Museum. Parry was one of nearly 100 people from 12 states nominated for the new award, which includes $50,000 and will be given annually by the High Desert Museum in Bend in partnership with the Jordan D. Schnitzer and the Harold & Arlene Schnitzer CARE Foundation. 

 

Parry is receiving the award because of his leadership of the Wuda Ogwa Cultural and Land Restoration Project, located on the site of the worst massacre of Native Americans by the U.S. military. In 1863, a U.S. Army colonel led an attack on a campsite near the Bear River on the Idaho and Utah border where the ancestors of the Northwestern Shoshone would gather in the winter. An estimated 400 people were murdered, including dozens of women, children and infants

 

In 2018, the Northwestern Shoshone purchased the 350-acre property from private owners and began the painstaking process of restoring the site to what it looked like before the massacre. That includes replacing roughly 400,000 invasive Russian olive trees with willows and native plants; creating 15 acres of wetlands; bringing back beavers, trout and other native wildlife; and restoring a tributary of the Bear River to send an expected 10,000 acre-feet of water annually to the Great Salt Lake.  

 

Parry joins us to share the significance of winning this award and the lessons he’s learned that could apply to other conservation efforts in the West. 

 

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May 14, 2026 1:6 PM
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Mining operation could be coming to Baker County

A mining operation that will create close to 100 jobs and cost upwards of $60 million to build could be coming to Baker County. As first reporter in the Baker City Herald, Sumpter Development LLC is planning to reopen four historic mines near Bourne. The company is currently meeting with the Oregon Department of Geology and Mineral Industries to see if it can get permission and permits from the state agency to use the mines. Jayson Jacoby is the editor of the publication and reported on this story. He joins us to share more.

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May 14, 2026 1:6 PM
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Evaluating wildfire risk in Oregon and Washington

Wildfire managers and policy makers in Oregon and Washington often evaluate a community’s wildfire risk based on environmental factors such as the probability of wildfire exposure or the number of threatened homes and buildings. They can also take into account a community’s social vulnerability, or a set of demographic characteristics that includes household income, educational attainment and racial and ethnic minority status.

 

For the first time, researchers at Oregon State University have created a tool that integrates both social vulnerability and wildfire hazard measurements to help inform the distribution of resources needed to reduce wildfire risk. The study found, for example, that more than 450 communities in Oregon and Washington face increased wildfire risk when their social vulnerability was included in risk assessments. Communities such as Warm Springs in Central Oregon and Mosier in the Columbia Gorge with high levels of social vulnerability, for example, could be prioritized for educational outreach, home hardening or fuels reduction programs. 

 

Joining us for more details are Andy McEvoy, a faculty research assistant in the College of Forestry at OSU.

 

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May 14, 2026 1:6 PM
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DA races in Oregon go uncontested for the first time in decades

 Election day in Oregon is next week. Oregonians must submit their ballots by Tuesday, May 19th. There are a number of measures and candidates running in local and statewide elections, but as reported in Bolts, not a single district attorney race is being contested. Oregonians will only have one option in determining who will play a critical role in how criminal justice is handled in the state.

 

Daniel Nichanian is the founder and editor-in-chief of Bolts. He joins us to share more on why many incumbents around the state aren’t being challenged and what we lose as voters when races go uncontested.

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May 13, 2026 1:9 PM
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Former timber town in rural Oregon faces extreme debt

A series of cascading problems, including financial mismanagement, industry failures and questionable city contracts have pushed Lakeview, Oregon into millions of dollars of debt it can’t pay off. Like many former timber towns, Lakeview has struggled to rebound from the collapse of the logging mills that once powered its economy and helped the community survive in an isolated corner of Southern Oregon. OPB reporter Bryce Dole joins us to explain how Lakeview got into this predicament, and what residents are trying to do to get out of it.

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May 13, 2026 1:9 PM
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Two perspectives on Southern Oregon University’s latest financial crisis

As Jefferson Public Radio reported, the  Southern Oregon University Board of Trustees voted unanimously last Friday to create its own plan for long-term financial stability rather than adopt entirely the steep cuts and revenue-raising measures the consulting firm Deloitte has recommended. SOU is facing a deficit of more than $12 million which is expected to grow to nearly $17 million by 2030. 

 

SOU has until next month to adopt a financial stability plan in order to receive $15 million in emergency funding approved by Oregon lawmakers in March. Deloitte’s plan calls for cutting four academic programs, including music and creative writing, and reconfiguring or consolidating nine other programs in subjects like Native American studies and philosophy.  


This is the latest financial emergency the university has faced in recent years it’s attempted to address through workforce and academic cuts. Last September, for example, the SOU Board of Trustees approved a plan to slash more than $10 million over four years by eliminating more than 20 academic majors and minors. SOU President Rick Bailey joins us for a perspective, along with Sage TeBeest, a creative arts program assistant at SOU and the president of SEIU 503 Sublocal 84, which represents classified staff at the university.

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May 13, 2026 1:9 PM
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OHSU researchers connect tinnitus with elevated serotonin activity in the brain

 It’s estimated that 1 in 10 adults experience tinnitus, often described as a phantom ringing noise in the ears. The condition can develop due to head trauma, hearing loss, exposure to loud noise or as a side effect of certain medications.

 

There’s no cure for tinnitus and its origins have long been a mystery. But new research from Oregon Health & Science University has linked tinnitus with elevated serotonin levels in certain regions of the brain. While far from a cure, the discovery could one day help scientists understand how to reverse the condition through brain chemistry.

 

Larry Trussell is a professor of otolaryngology at OHSU and interim director of the Oregon Hearing Research Center. Angie Garinis is an associate professor of otolaryngology at OHSU and a member of the Oregon Hearing Research Center. She’s also a principal investigator at the National Center for Rehabilitative Auditory Research at the Portland VA.

 

They both join us to talk about what this new information could mean for patients who suffer from tinnitus.

 

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May 12, 2026 12:35 PM
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Three of Oregon’s minor parties weigh in on the state of democracy under two-party system

The near total dominance of the two major political parties is nothing new. Democrats and Republicans have distinct ideological and political differences, but for some, it’s their similarities that drive them away from both.  Many voters are not affiliated with any party. In fact, those unaffiliated voters number more than either of the major parties by a substantial margin. Most of the remaining registered voters are members of the other minor parties: The Independent Party, the Constitution party, the Libertarian Party, No Labels, the Pacific Green Party, the Progressive Party, We the People Party and the Working Families Party.

 

In next week’s Oregon Primary, all voters will be sent ballots that include local and state candidates for nonpartisan offices and measures. But for those who are unaffiliated or a member of a minor party, no partisan candidates will appear, and they cannot vote for any of the major party candidates. Minor parties do not have their primary process funded by taxpayers, as the two major parties do.

 

A public opinion survey from January 2026 by DHM Research showed significant frustration with both major parties. And a recent national survey of voter opinions of Congress indicated contempt for both Democrats and Republicans. But what does all this mean for minor parties, if anything?

 

We ask representatives from three of those minor parties to share how they think two-party rule is working for the electorate at large and what changes they’d like to see to include more voters more often. Our guests are Annie Naranjo-Rivera with the Oregon Working Families Party, Sonja Feintech with the Libertarian Party of Oregon and Sal Peralta with the Independent Party of Oregon.

 

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May 12, 2026 12:35 PM
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