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Portland musician’s new album born out of loss

When local folk legend Michael Hurley died last spring, his friend Alela Diane was inspired to write “Spring Is A Fine Time (To Die)," an homage to her friend and his career. The song helped catalyze her new album, which was recorded live in the attic of her Portland home. Diane joins us in the studio, along with fellow musician Peter Lalish, for a conversation and live performance.

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May 8, 2026 7:6 PM
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Local group advocates for phone-free childhoods

OR Unplugged” is a coalition created by parents in Portland to support healthy digital environments for children. The group provides resources to parents and families like curriculums for digital wellness, suggestions for alternative devices to smartphones, and community events with “unplugged” activities.

The group also works as a thread to unite several smaller, local groups of parents across Oregon that are like-minded about creating phone-free environments for their children. Currently, these groups exist around Central Oregon, Hood River, Ashland, Salem and the Portland-Metro area.

 

One of these groups, based in Sherwood, was founded by Daniel Golder, a father who wanted to create a screen-free upbringing for his children. He calls the local group “Analog Alpha,” because of the group’s goal of helping Generation Alpha being “adept at technology without being dominated by it.”

 

Kathy Masarie is the founder of OR Unplugged — she’s a retired pediatrician who pivoted to this advocacy work after two decades in healthcare. We’ll hear from Masarie and Golder about their work. 

00:20:38
May 7, 2026 1:1 PM
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Oregon Contemporary Artists’ Biennial explores ‘The Price of the Ticket’ in 2026 art survey

More than two dozen artists are participating in the 2026 Oregon Contemporary Artists’ Biennial, which launched last month and ends on July 5. The current exhibit is titled “The Price of the Ticket” and is on display at the Oregon Contemporary gallery in North Portland. Audiences can also experience performances, poetry readings and public talks at other venues in the city.  

 

TK Smith is a writer and cultural historian who is curating the 2026 OCA Biennial that coincides with the 250th anniversary of our nation’s founding. Smith took inspiration from author and civil rights activist James Baldwin’s anthology of essays, “The Price of the Ticket,” to select a diverse array of works that explore America’s history, identity and the price of citizenship, especially for marginalized communities. 

 

Last fall, Oregon Contemporary announced that the National Endowment for the Arts had canceled a $30,000 grant it had previously awarded to the Biennial, per reporting by Willamette Week and other media outlets. The nonprofit Sitka Center for Art and Ecology quickly pledged its help to fill the funding shortfall.  

 

Smith joins us, along  with artists Mako Miyamoto and Jaleesa Johnston who are featured in the Biennial.  

 

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May 7, 2026 1:1 PM
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Grit and community support helps brighten outlook for 71-year-old Vancouver bowling alley

Rachael Allen says business is booming these days at Allen’s Crosley Lanes, a Vancouver bowling alley that her family has owned for nearly four decades. The Columbian’s recent profile of Allen and Crosley Lanes helped remind readers that the 71-year-old bowling alley is not only still around, but today thriving. That’s despite a couple of close but ultimately failed attempts Allen and her husband, Don, had made since 2018 to sell the business due to his declining health. 

 

Don died last May, and a few months later, Allen decided to throw a party at Crosley Lanes to honor his memory and celebrate the bowling alley’s 70th anniversary. She credits the community’s turnout and its continued show of support for renewing her faith in the business as an investment worth keeping and hand over to her son and daughter some day. 

 

Allen joins us to talk about Crosley Lanes, its history and the loyal patrons who are helping it endure. 

 

 

00:22:27
May 6, 2026 12:58 PM
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How Northwest winemakers are appealing to consumers in a changing market

Henderson Ave and Brooks Wine are two Oregon winemakers that operate at different price points, but are currently faced with many of the same questions: How do wineries appeal to consumers when American alcohol consumption has waned in recent years? How do producers ease barriers to entry for wine consumption and education? How do vintners approach sustainability when wine is facing challenges due to climate change?

Tiquette Bramlett is the founder of Henderson Ave, a collection of canned wines that launched last year. Jen Cossey is the general manager of Brooks Wine. They both join us to share more about the state of Oregon’s wine industry.

00:19:48
May 6, 2026 12:58 PM
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Lullaby Project brings creativity and music to parents in prison or experiencing homelessness

The Lullaby Project was created more than a decade ago by the  Carnegie Hall’s Weill Music Institute. The program pairs singer-songwriters with parents who are incarcerated or experiencing homelessness, and together they create a lullaby.  In Oregon, those songs are arranged for the Oregon Symphony and then publicly performed. This year’s performance is next Tuesday, May 12 at the Alberta Rose Theatre in Portland.

 

Ada McGraw was one of the first women to participate in this program after it expanded to the Coffee Creek Correctional Facility last year. While serving her sentence, McGraw was paired with singer-songwriter Bre Gregg. The lullaby they wrote was for her son Legend and included a poem from Legend’s father.


Jessica Katz is the director of The Family Preservation Project and facilitated their meeting. We talk with Katz, Gregg and McGraw to hear about this creative process and learn more about the larger impact of The Lullaby Project.

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May 5, 2026 1:40 PM
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Portland-based transportation consultant on the current state of public transport in Oregon cities

As commuters are seeing continuous hikes on gas prices in Oregon and across the nation, some are forced to reevaluate their commuting habits. Public transportation could currently be a vital alternative to commuters in Oregon and the Northwest as a whole. But, how well are public transportation systems in Oregon cities serving the public? How can they serve their communities in more efficient ways?

 

Jarrett Walker is a transportation consultant based in Portland — and he’s been answering these kinds of questions for public transit agencies across the nation for the last 35 years. We’ll hear his thoughts on the current challenges and opportunities ahead for modes of transportation such as buses, light rail and more.

 

00:19:21
May 5, 2026 1:40 PM
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Portlander wins World Series of Poker Circuit Main Event

 Adam Nattress has been playing poker since he was 19 years old, but it wasn’t until he got sober that he was able to really support his family and dedicate himself to the game. Nattress recently won nearly $140,000 dollars in South Lake Tahoe at the World Series of Poker Circuit Main Event. The $1,700 buy-in tournament drew over 400 players from around the U.S. We talk to Nattress about why he loves poker, addiction and what the tournament circuit is like.

 

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May 4, 2026 12:58 PM
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What difference will 8 new immigration laws make for immigrants in Oregon?

Oregon lawmakers passed eight immigration bills in the last legislative session that ended in March, and Gov. Tina Kotek signed them into law in April. The package of bills came as a response to a host of federal actions in 2025 that put immigrants and their families in jeopardy. Oregon was the first in the nation to become a sanctuary state in 1987 and has strengthened its protections in the intervening years. It is already illegal for law enforcement or public agencies to cooperate with federal agents without a warrant. 

 

The new laws strengthen existing protections and establish new ones. Among other provisions, they direct schools and hospitals to create alert systems, formalizing responses to federal actions. And they protect immigrant’s data and aim to prevent employer retaliation. Isa Peña is the director of strategy at Innovation Law Lab, an immigrant rights organization that lobbied for the bills. She joins us to share more about what the laws will do and the difference they’re expected to make for immigrant communities in Oregon. 

 

00:11:44
May 4, 2026 12:58 PM
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Amazon is planning more smaller distribution centers in smaller communities around Oregon

Amazon has plenty of huge warehouses around Oregon to get goods to online shoppers quickly, including one that’s 3.8 million square feet one in Woodburn, its biggest in the entire Northwest. But the giant retailer has started moving toward smaller facilities in more communities around the state, like Hood River, Eugene and Redmond. Amazon says this will provide better service for rural and smaller communities. But some people aren’t so keen on this idea. We hear more from Mike Rogoway, who covers business and technology at The Oregonian/Oregonlive to hear more about Amazon’s strategy and the variety of reactions it's getting from residents.

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May 4, 2026 12:58 PM
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Owyhee Canyonlands protection effort remains in limbo

The Owyhee Canyonlands area encompasses millions of acres along the Owyhee River on the borders of Oregon, Idaho and Nevada. The land is rugged and remote and beautiful, and efforts to to protect it in some way have dragged out for years. There were pushes for the last two Democratic presidents to designate the area a national monument and most recently, a bill to protect over 1 million acres of the land as wilderness failed in Congress at the end of last year. We traveled to the area and talked to people about the land and the efforts to protect it.

We stopped in Jordan Valley and talked to Mindy Kershner, a lifelong Jordan Valley resident, rancher, and owner of the Ranch Hand Hardware & Mercantile. Then we travelled down to Birch Creek Historic Ranch on the edge of the river to talk to Tim Davis, executive director of Friends of the Owyhee. We spoke to rancher Elias Eiguren on his family’s land in Arock. And then we talked to Reginald Sope, an elder of the Shoshone-Paiute Tribes who lives near the head of the canyon in Nevada.

00:51:34
May 1, 2026 12:6 PM
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Portland nonprofit Smashing Barriers aims to improve the lives of young people through tennis

The Portland-based nonprofit Smashing Barriers works with organizations including the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and Friendly House. It offers free tennis clinics and organizes charity tournaments. Jiya Mehta and Rohan Shah, the co-founders, started the nonprofit while in high school. They aim to bring the organization to each state in the U.S. In addition to Oregon, the nonprofit already has chapters in Arizona, California and Texas. We listen back to a conversation we first aired on Aug. 11, 2025 with Shah and Mehta who shared how tennis has shaped their lives and their plans for growing Smashing Barriers.

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Apr 30, 2026 1:8 PM
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Researchers say network-forming fungi need more protection

 

LONG SYNOPSIS: Oregon’s Willamette Valley is a major hotspot for webs of mycorrhizal, or network-forming, fungi. Researchers at the Society for the Protection of Underground Networks (SPUN) predict that nearly 90% of mycorrhizal networks around the world lie outside of protected areas, including those in the Pacific Northwest. These fungal networks help promote soil health and plant growth by moving nutrients between plants and soil.

 

Scientists at SPUN say that this hidden vital component of land-based ecosystems is deserving of more protection. But protection for these networks is different from typical land protection, since these fungal species are present in much of the soil in the U.S. Researchers say it’s important to find ways to protect this diverse fungi without keeping humans out of these areas entirely.

 

Kylie Mohr, a reporter with High Country News, wrote about the presence of these fungal networks in the West, and spoke with several experts who are imagining and calling for ways to preserve them. She joins us to break down the details.

 

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Apr 30, 2026 1:3 PM
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Is a liberal arts degree worth it?

Student debt in the U.S. has risen dramatically in the last few decades, while recent college graduates are having a harder time finding work. For the last five years, the unemployment rate of college graduates is above the national average and students graduate with an average of $40,000 dollars of debt. Meanwhile, students with degrees in technology or finance might find they are facing a work landscape transformed by artificial intelligence. But what about a liberal arts degree? We sit down with students, faculty and administrators at Linfield University to ask whether a liberal arts degree is still worth it.

00:52:04
Apr 29, 2026 1:0 PM
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REBROADCAST: Oregon grandparents share lived experiences to promote vaccinations for preventable illnesses

Grandparents for Vaccines is a nationwide nonprofit that aims to educate the current generation of parents about vaccine-preventable diseases. Launched in September 2025, the group has produced videos of grandparents describing what it was like to endure or witness their friends, classmates and relatives battle illnesses such as polio, measles and pertussis before vaccines for them existed. The group’s launch comes amid rising vaccine skepticism fueled by misinformation about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. A recent poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation and The Washington Post showed that 1 in 6 parents in the US have delayed or skipped vaccines for their children. Teri Mills is a founding member of Grandparents for Vaccines and a retired public health nurse who was named "Oregon Nurse of the Year" in 2019 by the Oregon Nurse Foundation. We listen back to a conversation we first aired on Nov. 19, 2025 with Mills and Sheri Schouten, a retired public health nurse and former Oregon state lawmaker, to hear their work with Grandparents for Vaccines.

00:20:44
Apr 28, 2026 1:11 PM
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Unethical AI use in legal filings on the rise in Oregon and the US, along with penalties

Two Oregon lawyers were recently fined $110,000 for including fictitious cases in filings that were AI “hallucinations.” This is not the first such case in Oregon, and General Counsel of the Oregon State Bar Ankur Doshi says it’s unlikely to be the last. There are hundreds of cases across the U.S. where the use of AI has resulted in incorrectly cited cases, fabricated quotes, cases that don’t exist, or all three. Doshi says using AI this way is antithetical to the sworn duties and responsibilities of the profession. Courts are increasingly imposing higher fines for these violations and state bar associations are also meting out discipline, which can range from admonitions to disbarment. Doshi joins us to share more about the regulations and guidance in place for using AI in legal proceedings.

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Apr 28, 2026 1:11 PM
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Eugene launches peer navigation program one year after CAHOOTS shutdown

It’s been just over a year since the crisis intervention program CAHOOTS stopped providing services in Eugene after the city decided to end its contract with the organization. The mobile team had operated in the city since 1989. Lane County launched its own crisis response team in 2024, and now, the city is partnering with Ideal Option to send peer navigators on non-emergency calls. Navigators will respond to welfare checks and connect community members to housing, behavioral health and other services.

 

Eugene-Springfield Fire Chief Mike Caven joins us to talk about the new program and the state of emergency response services in Eugene.

 

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Apr 28, 2026 1:10 PM
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OSU study shows faster water flows from warming winters, with impacts on water supply in Pacific Northwest

This past winter tied Oregon’s record for the warmest winter ever recorded. The warmer temperatures have led to record-low snowpack levels not only in Oregon but across many other western states. Climate change will likely make our winters not only warmer but also rainier, as more of the winter precipitation falls as rain instead of snow. 

 

That rain and melting snow are also expected to move faster through our landscape into rivers and streams in the Pacific Northwest through the coming decades, according to a new study led by scientists at Oregon State University. Scientists developed a model that estimates current and future water transit times based on precipitation events in a tributary of the Yakima River. Faster water flows through the landscape could be a variable that water managers may need to consider when planning for summer months when water demand is greatest. 

 

Zach Butler is a postdoctoral researcher at OSU and the lead author of the study. He joins us for more details.

 

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Apr 27, 2026 1:14 PM
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Prescribed Burns Associations let community members take part in controlled burnings

Prescribed burns are carefully planned fires on public lands to help reduce the risk of wildfires in communities. They're often conducted by by government agencies such as the Bureau of Land Management, but new groups of community members are now getting involved. Prescribed Burn Associations, also known as PBAs, are local groups of community members, land owners and other volunteers that conduct prescribed burns on private land. They also work closely with certified burn managers for planning, securing permits and more to prepare the site for fire.

 

Chris Adlam is a regional fire specialist for Oregon State University's Extension Program. Aaron Krikava is an organizer for the Rogue Valley PBA. They both join us to share more on what PBAs are and the impact they have had in Oregon.

 

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Apr 27, 2026 1:14 PM
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Portland State University report highlights best ways to support people experiencing homelessness

“What is the most effective way to support people experiencing homelessness?” That’s the question a new report called “The Pathways Study” tries to answer. Researchers at the Homelessness Research and Action Collaborative at Portland State University surveyed more than 500 people who are or have been homeless. The study focused on what people experiencing homelessness say they need most and what programs and services are helping them survive–and for some, get housing. 

 

Kathleen Conte is the lead investigator of the study, and Cassie Marusa is a member of the 17-person Lived Experience Committee that helped produce it. They join us to share more about the study and their recommendations as Portland continues to grapple with how to provide housing to those without it.

 

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Apr 27, 2026 1:14 PM
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Portland podcaster and puzzle enthusiast explains what is speed puzzling

Over the pandemic, the sale of puzzles skyrocketed. And while people of all ages enjoy piecing together jigsaw puzzles as a more leisurely activity, others take it at a much more serious and at a competitive level. Speed puzzling is a competition where everyone is given the exact same puzzle and individuals, duos or teams work together to complete it the fastest. Last month, USA Jigsaw Nationals brought together puzzle lovers across the country to Atlanta to compete. Portlander Rob Shields was one of the attendees. He is a speed puzzling enthusiast as well as the host of "Piece Talks," a speed puzzling podcast. He joins us to share more on what he saw at the nationals and what makes speed puzzling so appealing.

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Apr 24, 2026 1:17 PM
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Scientist looks to microbe found in extreme environments to help protect Washington apples

When it comes to growing apples, no state dominates like Washington. It accounts for roughly 6 in 10 of all the apples grown in the U.S. One of the major threats facing this top crop is fire blight. The bacterial disease attacks apple and pear trees and can ruin an entire harvest, costing roughly $100 million annually in losses for the U.S. apple industry. The fire blight bacteria can also develop resistance to the antibiotic orchardists have typically used to protect their fruit trees.

 

But that resistance may have met its match in a compound that Washington State University microbiologist and associate professor Cynthia Haseltine calls “the universal assassin” for its ability to kill not only fire blight bacteria but also other harmful pathogens. Haseltine has spent nearly a decade developing this compound that is derived from a microbe found in extreme environments like volcanic vents and hot springs. 

 

The compound is now being field tested for the first time in central Washington. It’s also shown promise in the lab at killing listeria bacteria which can grow on equipment in fruit packing plants. 

 

Haseltine joins us to share details of the grant she was recently awarded to expand production and real-world testing of this novel approach to protecting Washington apples.

 

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Apr 24, 2026 1:17 PM
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Washington researchers are concerned about gray whale populations after uptick in early-season deaths

According to scientists at the Cascadia Research Collective, gray whale populations off the Washington coast are experiencing a higher level of early-season mortality than they’ve ever recorded. Just this year, three gray whales have been found off the Oregon Coast, and 14 have been found off the coast of Washington.

The whales that have been found stranded in Washington and Oregon appear to have been extremely malnourished. Scientists think that melting sea ice due to climate change in the arctic is reducing the whales’ food supply, leading to the uptick in whale deaths recorded along the entire West Coast.

John Calambokidis is a senior research biologist and a co-founder of the Cascadia Research Collective who has been studying gray whales for over 50 years. He’s one of the first to dispatch when a gray whale washes up on the coast of Washington. Calambokidis joins us to discuss these trends and what it means for gray whale populations in our region.

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Apr 24, 2026 1:17 PM
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