Bill Belichick-Dabo Swinney matchup, the 'noise' around Dave Doeren

WRAL Triangle and Two

Bill Belichick-Dabo Swinney matchup, the 'noise' around Dave Doeren

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Published on Oct 1, 2025, 4:47:31 PM
Total time: 00:41:14

Episode Description

North Carolina (2-2) hosts Clemson (1-3) at noon ET Saturday at Kenan Memorial Stadium in Chapel Hill. It marks the first matchup between Bill Belichick and Dabo Swinney.

WRAL's Mark Bergin and Pat Welter discussed which team has had the more disappointing start to the 2025 season.

The guys also discussed which quarterback the Tar Heels could start between Gio Lopez and Max Johnson. Lopez left the UCF game with a leg injury.

Bergin and Welter also shared their thoughts on NC State (3-2) losing two consecutive games ahead of Saturday's game against Campbell (1-4).

The guys discussed whether head coach Dave Doeren is on the hot seat.

Plus, the guys previewed Duke's road matchup against California.

Last, Welter shared his thoughts on the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie "One Battle After Another," and what it was like meeting Anderson while working as Rob Schneider's assistant on the movie "Grow Ups."

More about WRAL Triangle and Two

WRAL Triangle and Two is a sports podcast from WRAL in Raleigh, North Carolina. The show takes the Triangle sports stories you care about and gives you the “how” and “why” behind them. WRAL’s Mark Bergin, Louis Fernandez, Chris Lea, Brian Murphy and Pat Welter discuss the top sports stories with connections to NC State, North Carolina, Duke and the Triangle.