Clint was one of the people who unknowingly laid the groundwork for this podcast. He's had an influence on Pete for decades, as a stalwart in the Southeastern Pennsylvania recovery community. In recovery you'll often hear "promotion by attraction" and if you don't understand the concept you certainly will by the end of this podcast.
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The Payoff is a look at the great life that awaits in sobriety on other side of addiction - but not without taking you through the madness first. Hosted by Pete Sousa.