Charlie Engle

Charlie Engle is a legendary ultra-marathon runner. He has won or placed in some of the world's most challenging races. In 2007, Matt Damon produced and narrated Running the Sahara. It's a film about Engle and his successful bid to become the first person to run across the Sahara Desert. Before all of that though, Charlie’s addiction almost killed him. But now he wears it as a badge of honor, a self-proclaimed sober warrior, he’s spent 30 years on the sunny side of the street. This conversation will probably have you wondering ‘how long till the movie comes out?’

http://www.charlieengle.com/

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