Will Frameworks Survive? Web Development in an AI-Driven World w/ Typecraft and Robert Jackson

This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert’s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask
• (14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4
• (22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops
• (29:37) - How open source shapes careers
• (36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?
• (46:53) - Kids and tech
• (47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour
• (49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority

Links

• Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask: https://ohishiwhisky.com/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
• 30 Rock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock
• Alec Baldwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• Opus: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• GitHub: https://github.com/
• Neovim: https://neovim.io/
• Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
• Apple: https://apple.com
• Ollama: https://ollama.com/
• DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
• Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• Buffalo Wild Wings: https://www.buffalowildwings.com/
• Hot Ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones
• McDonald's: https://www.mcdonalds.com/
• MyFitnessPal: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/
• MacroFactor: https://macrofactorapp.com/

Connect with Typecraft

• Website: https://typecraft.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

Connect with Robert

• Website: https://www.rwjblue.com/
• Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

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Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.