The Future of Web Dev: Are We Overcomplicating Everything?

This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey
• (07:42) - ORMs and Prisma
• (11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle?
• (14:41) - React and modern web development
• (21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools
• (27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder?
• (35:18) - Ember vs Rails
• (39:22) - Home security and automation
• (44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked
• (46:13) - Movies and going to the theater
• (47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash
• (50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment?

Links

• Hatozaki: https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/
• Jim Gaffigan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan
• Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/
• Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
• Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/
• Fakerjs: https://fakerjs.dev/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/
• Epic Web: https://www.epicweb.dev/
• HTMX: https://htmx.org/
• DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
• Supabase: https://supabase.com/
• Figma: https://www.figma.com/
• LaunchDarkly: https://launchdarkly.com/
• Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/
• Embroider: https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider
• Webpack: https://webpack.js.org/
• Vite: https://vite.dev/
• Broccoli: https://broccoli.build/
• Rollup: https://rollupjs.org/
• Parcel: https://parceljs.org/
• Glimmer: https://glimmerjs.com/
• RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/
• Laravel: https://laravel.com/
• Flipper Zero: https://flipperzero.one/
• Tamagotchi: https://tamagotchi-official.com/
• Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/
• Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/
• Bun: https://bun.sh/
• Z-Wave: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave
• Wicked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)
• The Greatest Showman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman
• The Wizard of Oz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz
• Gladiator II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II
• Moana 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2
• Frozen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2
• The Snow Queen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen
• DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/
• Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

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Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.