Center Stage, with Milfred and Hands

Center Stage, with Milfred and Hands

They're the "Click and Clack" of Wisconsin politics. Scott Milfred, editorial page editor for the Wisconsin State Journal, and Phil Hands, the newspaper's political cartoonist, analyze the most important issues and debates from the Badger State with political independence and a sense of humor. Instead of tedious talking points from the left and the right, "Center Stage" broadcasts from the sensible center with audio clips from the Wisconsin Capitol, from State Journal editorial board meetings, and from political events across the state.

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Center Stage, with Milfred and Hands
Francesca Hong wants to 'get sh-t done' as Wisconsin governor

Milfred and Hands talk with Democratic candidate for governor Francesca Hong about raising the minimum wage, instituting a wealth tax and smoking cigars with Republicans. Hong surprised many people by leading early polls for the Democratic nomination among a crowded field of candidates. But can a democratic socialist who represents the ultra-progressive Isthmus and East Side of Madison appeal to voters statewide in Wisconsin? Hong says she's exciting younger voters and others who want an outsider candidate. "They see me as the working-class person, the everyday person because I am," she says. "I don't think I'm better than anyone else." The restauranteur turned state Assemblywoman could win the party's nomination Aug. 11 with around 27% of the primary vote, she says. Milfred and Hands ask about her past statements about defunding police as well as her biggest accomplishment in the Legislature and top priority if elected to lead the state.  

00:47:55
Jun 3, 2026 11:28 PM
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David Crowley says Republicans fear him most in bid for Wisconsin governor

Milfred and Hands talk to David Crowley about his bid for Wisconsin governor, which he says the GOP fears because of his broader appeal. He won reelection as Milwaukee County executive with 85% of the vote. But only 16% of voters in the Madison region know who he is, according to the Marquette Law School poll. That could change soon, because Crowley led Democrats in fundraising the last time numbers were reported, allowing him to spend money on advertising. Crowley touts his record of improving the finances of Wisconsin's largest county while reducing homelessness. 

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May 25, 2026 11:39 PM
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Kelda Roys wants to 'build what comes next' in Wisconsin

Milfred and Hands talk with state Sen. Kelda Roys, D-Madison, about her bid for governor. Roys says she's the most experienced leader with results who best measures up against presumptive Republican nominee U.S. Rep. Tom Tiffany, R-Minoqua. "I'm the candidate who can actually say, 'Here's what I've done,' not just 'Here are my ideas that I've never been able to accomplish.'" She touts her endorsement from the state teachers union, her independence and favorite Wisconsin supper club.

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Apr 25, 2026 11:27 PM
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Wisconsin's connection to Oscar-winning 'One Battle After Another'

Milfred and Hands talk politics and film with Wisconsin native Michael Bauman, the cinematographer for "One Battle After Another," which won six Oscars last month. Bauman, who grew up about 60 miles northeast of Madison in the Fond du Lac County village of Brandon, was nominated for an Oscar and won a BAFTA Award for best cinematography. He talks about the blockbuster movie and its implications for immigration and border policy. He also recounts his experience in the film program at UW-Oshkosh and explains why bigger productions shoot in Illinois rather than Wisconsin -- including "Monster: The Ed Gein Story," which he worked on. Hands thinks Sean Penn's character, Col. Lockjaw, for which he won a supporting actor Oscar, is too real in the Trumpian era to be absurd. Milfred, who grew up with Bauman in Brandon, picks a star to play Bauman in a future biopic.

00:41:13
Apr 7, 2026 6:59 PM
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Will data centers devour Wisconsin's climate goal?

Milfred and Hands assess the flurry of data centers being proposed across Wisconsin in communities such as Mount Pleasant, Beaver Dam, Janesville, Grant County and, until recently, DeForest. The billion-dollar projects are needed to support our phones, computers, electronic devices and artificial intelligence. But they also will consume, in many cases, more energy than the cities where they hope to locate. That risks undermining Wisconsin's goal to be carbon neutral by 2050 if the Public Service Commission approves more natural gas plants to power the centers. Our political podcasters play audio clips from the Wisconsin Policy Forum's recent forum in Milwaukee on data center development. 

00:21:35
Feb 11, 2026 1:25 PM
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Wisconsin political predictions for 2026

Milfred and Hands play Nostradamus, with apologies to Conan O'Brien, predicting who will win the races for Wisconsin governor, state Supreme Court, Trump's affections and the Big Ten conference in 2026. Milfred sees a future with lots of candidates lining up to run for Madison mayor. Hands makes an easy call about the direction of Madison's property taxes.

00:21:09
Dec 31, 2025 2:15 PM
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Sean Duffy vs. Elon Musk for control of NASA

Milfred and Hands explore the "Game of Thrones" conflict between Sean Duffy, the Trump administration official acting as head of NASA, and Elon Musk, the former billionaire buddy of President Donald Trump who leads SpaceX and Tesla, both of which Duffy now regulates as the secretary of Transportation. Musk insulted Duffy, calling him Sean "Dummy" and making fun of his North Woods lumberjacking skills honed in Wisconsin. But Duffy seems to have the upper hand, at least for now, as America seeks to return to the moon and eventually Mars.

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Nov 10, 2025 11:12 PM
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Who will be Wisconsin's next governor?

Milfred and Hands size up the candidates for Wisconsin's top job, including those who have declared bids and others who are likely to follow. Our political podcasters agree that one Democrat and one Republican are best positioned for success in party primaries, now that incumbent Gov. Tony Evers has announced he won't seek a third term. So much can happen between now and November 2026, and key to christening a GOP nominee will be President Donald Trump's endorsement.   

00:20:45
Sep 11, 2025 4:3 PM
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Madison's 20 mph speed limit ... is ... too ... slow

Milfred and Hands test drive Madison's "20 is Plenty" edict that feels cementy when you actually try to drive that slow -- not that many if any people ever will for very far. Sure, driving so slow in theory makes it easier for a car to stop. But "slow speeders" aren't the problem. Real speeders are. And that requires more traffic enforcement, not feel-good laws pretending motorists will drive slower in cars than many bicycles do on the city's bike paths.

00:13:28
Aug 6, 2025 10:36 PM
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Ron Johnson's big, beautiful 'no'

Milfred and Hands tout U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson's resistance to the House-passed "big, beautiful bill" that would further burden our children and grandchildren with debt. But he's only half right in focusing on spending while mostly ignoring the cost of tax cuts.

00:17:36
Jun 12, 2025 11:37 PM
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What's the holdup on legal weed in Wisconsin?

Milfred and Hands get the bottom of Wisconsin's long-overdue legalization of medical marijuana and the stubborn Republican resistance to pot for recreational use -- even though GOP President Donald Trump is for it.

00:19:53
May 17, 2025 11:4 PM
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Wisconsin voters shred Elon Musk's fake cheese

Milfred and Hands dissect Elon Musk’s impact on the Wisconsin Supreme Court race last week and look ahead to next year’s midterm elections in the swing state and beyond. President Donald Trump's billionaire buddy spent more than $20 million trying to elect Judge Brad Schimel to the Badger State's top court. Musk and Schimel failed in a blowout to Justice-elect Susan Crawford, who won by a quarter-million votes. A left-leaning majority will now hold the court until at least 2028, which would keep abortion legal and force changes to Wisconsin's congressional districts. Musk's lottery-like antics and fake-cheese persona turned off more voters than it charmed.

00:19:47
Apr 5, 2025 10:44 PM
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