Audie Cornish & Ari Shapiro On Ambition, Purpose, Poetry

The Sam Sanders Show

Audie Cornish & Ari Shapiro On Ambition, Purpose, Poetry

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Published on Jun 5, 2026, 2:00:00 AM
Total time: 00:52:00

Episode Description

Let’s have a life-affirming party with Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro!

The longtime friends and journalists join Sam to explain the latest entry in the pop lexicon: Blue Dot Fever. It’s not a disease, but the terminology behind a recent wave of cancelled concert tours. From Post Malone to the Pussycat Dolls, tickets aren’t selling like they used to. They break down what the phenomenon says about our current economics and culture. 

Plus, they share their “Modern Scriptures,” the pieces of pop culture they can always count on to boost their spirits. Including a rapper’s inspiring message and a vintage poem that will bring all the feels.

Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro’s new podcast from CNN is called Engagement Party

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The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.

More about The Sam Sanders Show

The Sam Sanders Show from KCRW is your guide to entertainment. Find out what makes your favorite artists tick, dissect the trends that shape our culture, or just make sense of that random meme you can’t stop thinking about. Join us every week to unpack the pop culture we love.

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Sam Sanders is an award-winning podcast and radio host. He’s been named best podcast host by both The Ambies and the iHeart Podcast Awards. He was one of the founding hosts of The NPR Politics Podcast and the host who launched both It’s Been A Minute from NPR and Into It from Vulture.