Following the tragic shooting of two National Guard members in Washington, D.C., national refugee policy is once again in the spotlight. The suspect—an Afghan asylum seeker who had worked with U.S. forces—has fueled calls from President Trump for an immigration crackdown, including stricter bans and halted asylum applications. But what does this mean for Utah’s refugee community? Amy Harmer, executive director of the Utah Refugee Connection, joins us to discuss the local impact. Are Afghan refugees in Utah fearful of these new narratives? How many families are here, and what challenges do they face as they adapt to life in the U.S.? Greg and Holly explore the stigma surrounding refugees, the resilience of those rebuilding their lives, and the importance of seeing beyond stereotypes to understand the human stories at the heart of our community.